22 SAS

[Hellbreather]

I know this is an incredibly stupid but I just want to know.
I am aware that it is the Special Air Service.

But if you join a troop such as the mobility and the boat troop are you still required to have parachuting skills under your belt. And if so would you still have to do HALO & HAHO jumps or just normal parachuting?

Also if anyone knows whats Static Line Parachuting.

Thanks.
Hellbreather.

[Stokey_14]

I believe you have to pass parachute training (static line jumping) to get into the regiment so all the members can do static line jumping (this is where the parachute opens automatically as you jump with no free fall.) if you are in Air troop you will have to learn HALO and HAHO.

This is what I’ve herd and I’m not a hundred percent sure on that as my knowledge is limited to books/ internet and a few SAS survival secrete DVD's I got of Amazon for a light watch .

I'm sure some one will back me up/correct me.

Stokey

[Hellbreather]

Thanks for the reply,

Is there anywhere that I can find out for sure, because to be honest I don't think I could handle a HALO jump but static line sure I could do that.

It would just interest me to know.

[Artist]

The S.A.S were called that to confuse the Germans and the Italians in the Middle East during the fighting in and around North Africa. In point of fact they never exceeded 300 all in during that time. Afterwards they were seen to be the dogs bollox at what they were good at thus their numbers were increased.

After WW2 they along with the Army Commando units were disbanded.

Come the hassle in Malaya in the 50's a unit called the "Malayan Scouts" was formed which basically consisted of ex SAS bods and some ex Army Commando bods who were still serving in the Army. During the crisis other bods joined the scouts (my father being one of them).

They did their job so well it was decided to reform the SAS. The rest is as they say History. My Pop has been dead for 20 years but that is what he told me in essence, plus I've made the time to learn a bit about them myself.

Artist

[tom163]

Ive been told by my local ACIO all Paras and special forces do static line parachute training as basic, that is were your parachute opens as you leave the plane if you didnt know.

[Paratrooper01]

After WW2 they along with the Army Commando units were disbanded.

Artist,

Is there any reason therefore why there is still units who wear the "Army Commando" Badge, 29 Commando RA for example?

Is it just to give the army attatchments to 3 Cdo Bde some kind of recognition?

[Sarastro]

Static line parachuting = Rip cord (the cord which deploys the parachute while you are in freefall) is attached to the plane by a line. Thus when you jump out, it automatically pulls the parachute after you have fallen a safe distance. Parachuting for beginners to ensure nobody freaks out first time, forgets to pull cord, and goes splat!

[druadan]

Paratrooper,

'Commando' has a double meaning; a Commando is either a bloke, or a unit. 40, 42 and 45 Commandos are the only remaining Commandos in the second sense - basically the same as an infantry Battalion (I think - not shit hot on Army structures). Commando flashes, as worn by whoever (RM have shoulder flashes, Army have red dagger on black) denote that that actual bloke is Commando trained - he does not necessarily have to be part of a Commando. Cdo Logs, 29 Arty, 59 RE etc all contain Commandos, but are not Commandos.

Better?

[Paratrooper01]

Paratrooper,

'Commando' has a double meaning; a Commando is either a bloke, or a unit. 40, 42 and 45 Commandos are the only remaining Commandos in the second sense - basically the same as an infantry Battalion (I think - not shit hot on Army structures). Commando flashes, as worn by whoever (RM have shoulder flashes, Army have red dagger on black) denote that that actual bloke is Commando trained - he does not necessarily have to be part of a Commando. Cdo Logs, 29 Arty, 59 RE etc all contain Commandos, but are not Commandos.

Better?

Ok. So simliar to the lots of people wearing maroon lids today. Para trained...not paratroopers.

[paddlequack]

Whether it's been fabricated or not this is a good read and has alot of good facts into selection and about HAHO/HALO jumps.

Andy Mcnab's Autobiography - Immediate Action

[Doc]

HAHO is RAF for Hello

and HALO is german for Hello

Hope it helps

Doc

[KIMBERLYPARE]

HOLA is spanish for'why have you spewed all over the room again'?
Laters guys..
off he trots...

kp.

[Doc]

Whether it's been fabricated or not this is a good read and has alot of good facts into selection and about HAHO/HALO jumps.

Andy Mcnab's Autobiography - Immediate Action

You need to get out more.

[Doc]

Para01

The Dagger on black triangle commando qual badge is also now worn by Bootnecks under their RM Commando flashes to denote commando trained.

a black dagger on a green square background is similiar to a DZ flash and denotes a member of 3 cdo brigade. Not all members of 3 cdo are commando trained but all wear the "DZ" flash.

RN commandos wear RN Commando flashes similiar to the RM flashes.

Army and crab commando trained bods wear the red dagger on black triangle.

Did you also know that not all wings are the same, in that the RAF have a different colour scheme to your lot. Someone who passes crab wings course shouldnt wear the same wings you do.

Anyone who is commando trained isnt required to complete PCoy to get his wings up, although 59 Cdo do ensure that even their bods do Pcoy aswell as AACC to become para trained.

RM and RN and 29 cdo, and any perc attached to Logs etc bods who are already commando trained just goto brize and jump.

Sabre wings arent based on HALO or HAHO quals, its the same course as at No1 PTS but the difference denotes their other training.

Is anyone aware of the rule that if you complete an op jump you are entitled to move your wings from arm to breast? Not sure if its the case these days.

Anyway hope it helps, and its all better than being a hat.

[paddlequack]

Para01

The Dagger on black triangle commando qual badge is also now worn by Bootnecks under their RM Commando flashes to denote commando trained.

a black dagger on a green square background is similiar to a DZ flash and denotes a member of 3 cdo brigade. Not all members of 3 cdo are commando trained but all wear the "DZ" flash.

RN commandos wear RN Commando flashes similiar to the RM flashes.

Army and crab commando trained bods wear the red dagger on black triangle.

Did you also know that not all wings are the same, in that the RAF have a different colour scheme to your lot. Someone who passes crab wings course shouldnt wear the same wings you do.

Anyone who is commando trained isnt required to complete PCoy to get his wings up, although 59 Cdo do ensure that even their bods do Pcoy aswell as AACC to become para trained.

RM and RN and 29 cdo, and any perc attached to Logs etc bods who are already commando trained just goto brize and jump.

Sabre wings arent based on HALO or HAHO quals, its the same course as at No1 PTS but the difference denotes their other training.

Is anyone aware of the rule that if you complete an op jump you are entitled to move your wings from arm to breast? Not sure if its the case these days.

Anyway hope it helps, and its all better than being a hat.

By the sounds of it so should you