21 SAS

[Biggie]

First off, I would like to say what a great site this is, very useful, not just for people wishing to join the forces, but also people who want to get fit in general. I stumbled upon this Forum about 4 days ago, and have been glued ever since.

Right, I’m not a wannabe Rambo type, but I would like to have a crack at 21 SAS. Now I told my girlfriend and she just laughed (she thinks it isn’t possible for whatever reason). I really want to give it a go, so if someone could answer my questions I’d be most glad.

1) Is it possible for a human to pass the selection? This may seem like a rather odd question, but I currently have the opinion (I was given this impression by some ex-army people) that only super fit freaks pass. Is this right? On the 21 SAS website I was looking at, it said I needed to be able to run 10 miles in 60 minutes!! This is something I’m nowhere near at, at the moment.

2) I heard there is a detachment in Exeter, is this true?

3) If I were to get in, what would I be doing? I know I wouldn’t be in all the black gear et cetera that so many expect when they join, but I don’t want to go through all the hell, only to sit on my ass (I don’t expect this will happen though)

4) How many people are in 21 SAS?

5) When do they train? Because of work, it might not be possible for me to train throughout the weekdays, with the exception being evenings.

6) Do people die doing selection with 21 SAS? I heard that they do, but I’m not sure whether the persons who told me were just bullshi**ing.

7) What levels should my fitness be at? Do they walk with massive bags on their backs more than they run? Also, what about upper body strength?

8) How many years do I have to commit? Do they get paid at the same level as the regular SAS per hour?

9) What are the opportunities like to serve with the regular SAS?

10) What is the pass rate like?

That concludes my list of questions, I have searched the forum for topics on 21, but if someone could answer my listed questions I would appreciate it.

Many thanks.

[King_duck]

Not sure if this is a wah or not but as it is actually written in a comprehendable manner (which is more than I can say for my own writing) I'm going to suggest a few answers.

1) Yes humans pass, no you dont have to be a super fit freak, no you dont have to run 10 miles in 60 minutes.

2) Look on the website www.uksfr.net (redirects you)

3) You'll find out what you'll be doing when you get in, rest assured your ass will get more than enough exercise.

4) I'd suggest you consider that question carefully.. No-one will tell you.

5) Generally training is one evening a week and every other weekend.

6) Who hasn't heard the stories? Dont do anything silly and you'll be fine.

7) You need to be fit. Start by being able to run 8 miles at 8 minute miles as a minimum, and i would suggest that really is a minimum.

In terms of years you sign the same contract as any other reserve unit - 3 years. If you get in you will be paid well..

9) There arent.

10) Depends but 5-10%.

[Biggie]

Thanks for your help, and no I'm not a walt.

P.S. Is a walt someone who is interested in joining a highly respected force?

[Illustrious]

not usually, a walt is a spazzlefcuk who is one of two things. Either has super high aspirations like "Im going to go do P-coy then go SAS for a few years then go for the Navy SEALs then i think I might go cure world poverty or something"

Then there's the spazzlefcuks who say "yeh, Im in the SAS, we go kill terrorists, its awesome, we run around with sniper rifles like in counterstrike"

*PS - Once again, for the dumber members of the site (brisks) thats a dramatization.

[tom163]

I see most of your questions have been awnsered but if you do have any intentions of trying for the 22 regiment, reserve may not be the best choise, try the Parachute Regiment that supply's 53% of the soldiers to the SAS after serving the 3-4 year minimum and you get loads more training because your there all the time not traveling to and from the base.

Also once you get the oppertunity to serve in 1 Para (SFSG) you work along side the SAS and other special forces.

http://www.army.mod.uk/para/

[ADDiction]

Nice definition of a spazzlefcuk you gave us there Illustrious .

[CptStabbo]

Afternoon all,

Another definition of a walt would be someone who makes a claim such as:

if you do have any intentions of trying for the 22 regiment, reserve may not be the best choise, try the Parachute Regiment that supply's 53% of the soldiers to the SAS

No. Just no.

Good day,

CptStabbo.

[Stinky]

I heard somewhere that around 80% (or something like that) of the people that go into the SAS are marines. Now I am not saying I believe this but that doesn't make who ever told me wrong...although he could be.

[SO19]

I heard somewhere

[tom163]

It says on the Parachute Regiment site 53% of Para's are supplyed to the SAS and they also have 1 Para who work alongside the SAS. The marine dont have anything like that as far as I know. Also do the math
53% Paras (true) and 80% Marines (alleged) = 133% (not possible)

Also every regiment is going to say they supply the SAS with soldiers but you have to look at the hard facts.

[Stinky]

I'm almost sure I heard that fact from this website! If 133% is not possible, how you going to give the military 200% effort soldier .

[CptStabbo]

Tom,

The information that you quote as fact, is not. It may be 20 years out of date, it may be recruitment propaganda, or it may just be made up becuase no one keeps official statistics.

You also state that "the SAS have 1 para..." and "The marine (sic) dont have anything like that as far as i know"

That just goes to show how much you do know. Ever heard of the SFSG? Obviously not.

I really can't be arsed to argue with you - but back to the original thread:

21 is as good a place as any to attempt regular selection. Para reg, Royal, PWRR, Gurkhas, Rifles etc also supply plenty of canditates each course.

It's all very well telling people to join as a regular soldier in order to 'join the SAS' after 3 years (or whatever the current story is on this forum). But for some people they would rather have a civvie job and still get SF training / OPs. Not to mention the chance of attempting regular selection in the future.

All i'm saying is - if you don't have a clue what you're talking about - don't post it as fact - 3rd hand fact or otherwise.

Regards,

CptStabbo.

[tom163]

Ok mate calm the f@#k down, I want tryin to spark and argument. As I said not in the Army so most of my info is from my own reseach and such so some may not be true but 90% of it is up to date and correct. SO DONT BLOW THINGS OUT OF PROPORTION!!

[fodd]

Ok mate calm the f@#k down, I want tryin to spark and argument. As I said not in the Army so most of my info is from my own reseach and such so some may not be true but 90% of it is up to date and correct. SO DONT BLOW THINGS OUT OF PROPORTION!!

Mate i think what cptstabbo was saying is your takin info from 3rd party sources not your own you are still in college no offence but you aint been in the forces yet.

I dont know cptstabbo but im talking from an outside point there's too many lads on here who are in school college etc making facts which they have gotten of the net!

hope i haven't caused offence mate.

Ross