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Being able to take a life

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I hope this doesn't sound too callous, but has anyone had second thoughts about being able to kill?

I'm training for my prmc at the moment, and for the most part its coming on well, but I keep thinking about if I would be able to kill someone. Generally I think "Yeah, I can do that", but every so often I wonder if when it came down to it if I would be able to.

98% of the time I'm sure that I would be OK with it, but that other 2% I'll be walking down the street, and I look at someone and wonder if chips were down if I'd be able to do it.

Does anyone else have or has had the same worries? I'm guessing in a combat situation that the training would take over, but does the training ever make the doubt go away?
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I often think that,and even more so,when i read a Globe and Laurel and see the young lads that have died in the back,it makes me think a bit more about it.But it wouldnt stop me from joining.
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I shouldn't worry about it mate. You've got 32 weeks of training and preperation to go through before anything will be expected of you, and by that time the training will just kick in!
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I've stopped rabbit shooting now because I feel sorry for the rabbits, they never hurt anybody. All they do is bounce around with their white fluffy tails eating the grass and people's plants. But these people are completely different, nobodys asking you to kill them with a giant smile on your face. As the saying goes 'kill or be killed', they know what is at steak and they know the odds are greatly against them. They wouldn't fight if they wern't prepared to die, and it seems to be for the good of man-kind. It's completely different over there, if somebody is shot it is not spread all over newspapers like over here, it's just their way of life over there. If you really wanted to you could fire over the top of them, I doubt it will make you very popular though.
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Think about the lives you save; not the lives you take.
Aways look on the bright side of life.
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^^And stop looking at people in the street and thinking about killing them!
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Trust me fellas when you get on that 2 way firing range, you will just re-act, its that simple. The enemy becomes nothing more than a target and all you will want to do is drop that target as quickly as possible. Forget Queen and country, thats bollocks, you will be fighting for yourself and your oppo's.
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Weasel wrote:but does the training ever make the doubt go away?
As Shrek said it is TRAINING,TRAINING and more TRAINING.
I can only speak as a Police Officer in the United States.
When the shit hits the fan you watch out for your partner.

Hindsight and doubts come later.




And they don't go away.
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Well said ali hire, that's what I will make sure runs through my mind.
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Post by Felias »

You can't really have emotion about it. It's either you or him. His family bear the grief or yours. His family does not concern you and you will never get repercussions from it. If he's firing at you, you'll fire back and take him out. Best to be non-emotional, as then enemy will not pitty you or have emotion towards you.
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For me, the thought has never even cross my mind. You cant really have a totally strong opinion until you have been there and done it. At the moment im thinking of the intense pain im in from my 6 miler run! :lol: And how hard the 32 weeks will be!

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Thanks for the replies, they've helped ease my mind a bit. You've confirmed what I initially thought, that the training would take over.
ali_hire wrote:Think about the lives you save; not the lives you take.
That's basically one of my motivations for joining anyway, as long as I keep that in mind then I should be ok.
Brian- wrote:^^And stop looking at people in the street and thinking about killing them!
It's only as I'm walking through Plymouth, I'm sure nobody would mind... :-? Seriously though, I only think about that because of the way people can go from looking like a civilian to pulling out a gun and start shooting, and then disappear back into the crowd again.
Wholley wrote: Hindsight and doubts come later.




And they don't go away.
I guess as much as that, I hope that the knowledge that I believe what I'm doing is right will help.
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You take a life in order to save lifes. That was my attitude whilst serving.

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Post by mfat_man »

I've never killed anyone, or really wanted to but given the sitaution I would want to be alive and not dead so hopefully my training would be better than his, and he would be the one pushing up the daisies :wink:

Not saying that I would not feel sorry later but at the time your training and instict for survival takes over....
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Post by Felias »

As artist said. Nicely non emotional!
THinking about leaving already!
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