Well I believe it's been about a month now since this little girl went missing and with no real leads for the Police I am seriously doubting that she'll ever be found (at least not alive and well).
Whilst I share the parents grief at a time like this and can't begin what it must feel like to have a child go missing (not having of my own yet), I cannot help but feel that the parents are somewhat to blame for this tragedy. The press, however, seem to have totally avoided this point (rightly so IMO, the last thing they would need at a time like this).
I wonder if the same would be said if they weren't so middle class and white.
Irresponsible parenting if ever I saw it.
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I disagree to be honest.
I'm led to believe the house was in eyeshot of the parents whilst they had their dinner. You can't blame them for wanting to have dinner alone every now and then. Its just one of these things that 99,999 times it'd be alright but this one time someone was watching them leave. I don't blame the parents. Yes you could argue that if the parents had been there then... obviously they will have to live with this burden for the rest of their life.
I blame nobody but the person that took her. He is the only one who is really 100% at fault.
I agree that the chances of finding her alive and well lie somewhere between slim and none.
I'm led to believe the house was in eyeshot of the parents whilst they had their dinner. You can't blame them for wanting to have dinner alone every now and then. Its just one of these things that 99,999 times it'd be alright but this one time someone was watching them leave. I don't blame the parents. Yes you could argue that if the parents had been there then... obviously they will have to live with this burden for the rest of their life.
I blame nobody but the person that took her. He is the only one who is really 100% at fault.
I agree that the chances of finding her alive and well lie somewhere between slim and none.
If they had wanted to have dinner alone then they shouldn't have taken their children on holiday with them IMO.
They weren't very far away from their apartment but they certainly weren't in eyeshot the whole time as has been claimed. Have a look here.
And they say that they checked on them every 20 minutes, IMO you don't leave a four year old and two two year olds on their own for any length of time. There are any number of things that could have happened in that time without taking abduction into account.
I understand what you're saying insofar as they are almost certainly not the only people to have ever done this but surely you don't that sort of risk with your most valuable, irreplaceable possession.
They weren't very far away from their apartment but they certainly weren't in eyeshot the whole time as has been claimed. Have a look here.
And they say that they checked on them every 20 minutes, IMO you don't leave a four year old and two two year olds on their own for any length of time. There are any number of things that could have happened in that time without taking abduction into account.
I understand what you're saying insofar as they are almost certainly not the only people to have ever done this but surely you don't that sort of risk with your most valuable, irreplaceable possession.
Aways look on the bright side of life.
I don't agree at all, you ask any parent who hasn't left sight of their child for 5 mins whether it be in the garden or in a shopping centre, and there lying.
It could of happened anywhere in the world but the fact they were on holiday people think (not you), "They just thought leave them and they'll be fine."
To be honest I did have this thought when this first happened, that how could they of left them in a room, but it happens. There’s no difference popping next door to see a neighbour than going down the street for the same amount of time leaving your child sleeping.
My old man said he was away about a year ago down Devon, with his bird and there 2 year old son in a cottage. They went to the pub which was right next door for something to eat and kept popping back to see if he was still asleep and ok every 5-10mins, and this is exactly the same situation.
The fact is it happens, I don't know because i don't have kids but to keep your eye on a child for 24 hours a day 7 days a week is completely impossible. Its hard enough keeping an eye on them in the garden!
Now anyone tell me my father is a bad parent or Irresponsible, and you may feel my Rath!!
It could of happened anywhere in the world but the fact they were on holiday people think (not you), "They just thought leave them and they'll be fine."
To be honest I did have this thought when this first happened, that how could they of left them in a room, but it happens. There’s no difference popping next door to see a neighbour than going down the street for the same amount of time leaving your child sleeping.
My old man said he was away about a year ago down Devon, with his bird and there 2 year old son in a cottage. They went to the pub which was right next door for something to eat and kept popping back to see if he was still asleep and ok every 5-10mins, and this is exactly the same situation.
The fact is it happens, I don't know because i don't have kids but to keep your eye on a child for 24 hours a day 7 days a week is completely impossible. Its hard enough keeping an eye on them in the garden!
Now anyone tell me my father is a bad parent or Irresponsible, and you may feel my Rath!!
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Its tricky because while the little girl is still missing, its difficult to concentrate on analysing what the parents were doing etc. When (we all pray and hope) she is found, then questions will be asked of the parents.
It surprises me that 2 doctors would leave not just 1 small child, but 2 baby toddlers aswell, while they went out. In the reports Ive read, there was a babysitting service on hand at the resort which they could have used, and it seems like the intervals at which they were checking up on their kids range from every 15 minutes to over an hour.
Not being a parent, I cant give a strong view on this. I would like to think that as a parent I wouldnt be tempted to leave my children alone for 1 minute, never mind for half the evening. It seems strange to me that, having had one of their children kidnapped, the parents then proceed to jet off round Europe while leaving their other 2 kids behind. Yes, its to drum up public support and keep the focus, but is this really the time to be leaving your other 2 kids at home?
Im sure we all pray that she is found alive and well soon, because in either case her parents Im sure will be doing a lot of soul searching once its all over.
It surprises me that 2 doctors would leave not just 1 small child, but 2 baby toddlers aswell, while they went out. In the reports Ive read, there was a babysitting service on hand at the resort which they could have used, and it seems like the intervals at which they were checking up on their kids range from every 15 minutes to over an hour.
Not being a parent, I cant give a strong view on this. I would like to think that as a parent I wouldnt be tempted to leave my children alone for 1 minute, never mind for half the evening. It seems strange to me that, having had one of their children kidnapped, the parents then proceed to jet off round Europe while leaving their other 2 kids behind. Yes, its to drum up public support and keep the focus, but is this really the time to be leaving your other 2 kids at home?
Im sure we all pray that she is found alive and well soon, because in either case her parents Im sure will be doing a lot of soul searching once its all over.
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http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/6749131.stm
I've just read this and it chills my blood reading it.
As if 'apparently' killing her wasn't enough, the 'killer' is making a game of it.
I hope whoever it is falls into the hands of people who have no regard for the law.
I've just read this and it chills my blood reading it.
As if 'apparently' killing her wasn't enough, the 'killer' is making a game of it.
I hope whoever it is falls into the hands of people who have no regard for the law.
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jesst christ lads untill you have kids dont pass judgement on these poor people ffs they are probably going through hell like you couldn't beleive get a life
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Hear hear.
I`ve got two kids early thirtys and one kid aged eight. What I did thirty years ago is totally different to what I do now. We have never left our son unattended. Not ever. We`ve been to places where you can switch the phone in your room so reception can monitor the child and fetch you if there is a problem and we`ve gone "yes, right. Poke that"
Judge all you like but those people will rip themselves appart for the rest of their lives.
I`ve got two kids early thirtys and one kid aged eight. What I did thirty years ago is totally different to what I do now. We have never left our son unattended. Not ever. We`ve been to places where you can switch the phone in your room so reception can monitor the child and fetch you if there is a problem and we`ve gone "yes, right. Poke that"
Judge all you like but those people will rip themselves appart for the rest of their lives.
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The other day a reporter was accusing the parents that they meant the child to be kidnapped because they were 'acting suspicious' 
. Harry hackedoff is right, we all make mistakes (me espesally) and if I were to talk to them face to face I would never think about saying 'It's your fault deal, with it'. Carelessness yes, but that doesn't mean they didn't love their child. Would make this longer but I'm getting called for dinner.
. Harry hackedoff is right, we all make mistakes (me espesally) and if I were to talk to them face to face I would never think about saying 'It's your fault deal, with it'. Carelessness yes, but that doesn't mean they didn't love their child. Would make this longer but I'm getting called for dinner.No one has said that. People might not like it but fact is if they had taken the child with them and not left her unattended none of this would have happened.Stinky wrote:The other day a reporter was accusing the parents that they meant the child to be kidnapped because they were 'acting suspicious'
I'm not trying to say that the parents should be publicly shamed, far from it. If you read my original post you'll see that I said that it's the last thing that should happen and I'm glad (and a little surprised) that the press haven't jumped on this in a big way. (My hatred for the parasites that work for the tabloids is well documented in many of my previous posts).
But I see no harm in airing my opinion here, away from the eyes and ears of those involved. If I were to meet the McCanns I certainly wouldn't say anything like this to them as there's a time and a place and that would be neither.
To say that this is anything but negligent parenting is, IMHO, a bit naive.
When a 5 year old put his baby brother in the tumble dryer and killed him, the parent (single) went to jail because she had 'nipped to the shops' - 50ft from her house.
But I see no harm in airing my opinion here, away from the eyes and ears of those involved. If I were to meet the McCanns I certainly wouldn't say anything like this to them as there's a time and a place and that would be neither.
To say that this is anything but negligent parenting is, IMHO, a bit naive.
When a 5 year old put his baby brother in the tumble dryer and killed him, the parent (single) went to jail because she had 'nipped to the shops' - 50ft from her house.
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Of course they are going through hell, but I dont need to have kids to know that you shouldnt really bugger off on 3 toddlers and leave them unsupervised for half an hour at a time, thats fair enough isnt it?fodd wrote:jesst christ lads untill you have kids dont pass judgement on these poor people ffs they are probably going through hell like you couldn't beleive get a life
I aint saying they wanted her to be kidnapped, or were conscious of what they were potentially exposing her to, but when all is said and done its their actions that have allowed this to happen.
I do agree, however, that the subject of her parents actions should be put to one side and all efforts concentrated on finding the poor girl
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How is it naive, it was negligent parenting to leave their 3 children alone at night a significant distance away in an unguarded house.ali_hire wrote:I'm not trying to say that the parents should be publicly shamed, far from it. If you read my original post you'll see that I said that it's the last thing that should happen and I'm glad (and a little surprised) that the press haven't jumped on this in a big way. (My hatred for the parasites that work for the tabloids is well documented in many of my previous posts).
But I see no harm in airing my opinion here, away from the eyes and ears of those involved. If I were to meet the McCanns I certainly wouldn't say anything like this to them as there's a time and a place and that would be neither.
To say that this is anything but negligent parenting is, IMHO, a bit naive.
When a 5 year old put his baby brother in the tumble dryer and killed him, the parent (single) went to jail because she had 'nipped to the shops' - 50ft from her house.
Thats what he saidjamie534 wrote:How is it naive, it was negligent parenting to leave their 3 children alone at night a significant distance away in an unguarded house.ali_hire wrote:I'm not trying to say that the parents should be publicly shamed, far from it. If you read my original post you'll see that I said that it's the last thing that should happen and I'm glad (and a little surprised) that the press haven't jumped on this in a big way. (My hatred for the parasites that work for the tabloids is well documented in many of my previous posts).
But I see no harm in airing my opinion here, away from the eyes and ears of those involved. If I were to meet the McCanns I certainly wouldn't say anything like this to them as there's a time and a place and that would be neither.
To say that this is anything but negligent parenting is, IMHO, a bit naive.
When a 5 year old put his baby brother in the tumble dryer and killed him, the parent (single) went to jail because she had 'nipped to the shops' - 50ft from her house.
