I've trained in K1 a bit and it's great training but fighting is mostly psychological in the real world and no noe art will ever be proved the best as so much of it is about the individual person.
But for my to pence K1 striking all the way
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If you watch any of the Pro K1 and MMA fights you would see they are not fixed. It's intresting to see how different styles try to make the other inaffective i.e. a boxer can't fight on the ground but all the good MMA fighters are good on the ground and their feet now.
I've trained in K1 a bit and it's great training but fighting is mostly psychological in the real world and no noe art will ever be proved the best as so much of it is about the individual person.
But for my to pence K1 striking all the way
I've trained in K1 a bit and it's great training but fighting is mostly psychological in the real world and no noe art will ever be proved the best as so much of it is about the individual person.
But for my to pence K1 striking all the way
jesus this still going on?
all the martial arts training in the world will not teach you how to fight/be hard/get out of bother if you dont have the basic aggression to utilise it and this only comes from exposure to adrenaline/confrontation
k1 and mma are best for this as there is a lot of free sparring as with boxing kata based arts on the other hand will not simple fact.
i have seen people that are black belts in this that and the other freeze and get a kicking because they dont know how to handle their bodys reaction (ie adrenaline) in a confrontation and other than going out and fighting 3-4 times a week there is no other way to get passed this than to spar
be it boxing kickboxing MMA or what ever this is a must for learing how to handle your self
they say no plan survivies first contact and this is true you may have a nice right cross on the heavy bag but put a snarling and moving opponent in front off you and it goes to rat shit fear creeps in your legs shake you get tunnel vission and your voice quivers this you will misinterperupt as fear when it is unutilised adrenaline the turbo boost to your engine that if used effectivly will leave you the man that walks away (before or after the confrontation)
so get your self to what ever but be sure to get yourself someplace that has contact/stress as big emphasis in training and you may find that the arsenal you have by gods natural grace is enough to keep you safe when you understand the much more important psychology of violence over the physical and learn to hit F%^&ing hard and first
my tuppance worth
all the martial arts training in the world will not teach you how to fight/be hard/get out of bother if you dont have the basic aggression to utilise it and this only comes from exposure to adrenaline/confrontation
k1 and mma are best for this as there is a lot of free sparring as with boxing kata based arts on the other hand will not simple fact.
i have seen people that are black belts in this that and the other freeze and get a kicking because they dont know how to handle their bodys reaction (ie adrenaline) in a confrontation and other than going out and fighting 3-4 times a week there is no other way to get passed this than to spar
be it boxing kickboxing MMA or what ever this is a must for learing how to handle your self
they say no plan survivies first contact and this is true you may have a nice right cross on the heavy bag but put a snarling and moving opponent in front off you and it goes to rat shit fear creeps in your legs shake you get tunnel vission and your voice quivers this you will misinterperupt as fear when it is unutilised adrenaline the turbo boost to your engine that if used effectivly will leave you the man that walks away (before or after the confrontation)
so get your self to what ever but be sure to get yourself someplace that has contact/stress as big emphasis in training and you may find that the arsenal you have by gods natural grace is enough to keep you safe when you understand the much more important psychology of violence over the physical and learn to hit F%^&ing hard and first
my tuppance worth
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i have to add just seen the ground fighting navy sport thread since i posted on there and dantae is asking what windmilling is this from the self confessed grandmaster of all things streetfight????
frig me has he never seen steve coogan?/
what is everyones malfunction with wanting to be hard? i used to work the doors in leeds and harrogate in the late 80s and seen some real hard men and fact is they were the ones that would always say sorry first if they spilled some ones pint, fact is a hard man feels nothing to prove and feels no shame in walking away from a scrap if he can, to me if your looking for ways to make yourself "harder" then your missing the point totaly its not about kicking heads in its about walking away with your dignity and freedom intact and not laying in bed with the cold sweats freaking out that you may have killed someone, frig me what 's the point in that
be confidant that if it comes to you you can deal with it be that by reacting or running away what ever is the best course of action!!
martial arts are from another time there is no samurai comeing at you on horse back so you dont need to learn how to use a kasari fudo or nunchakas etc its obselite the threat now is multipile attackers trying to shove your pint glass in your face or happy slap you into youtube land just walk away its the best thing and if you cant then drop the biggest f^^ker there as hard and fast as you can and act mental bottle them out (make there adrenal reaction freak them out) then get out of dodge or put your pint down and go to another less nasty pub
but if it all fails then all you can do is learn to hit fast hard and accurate and have the back bone to go with it no bruce lee shite is going to help and karate, ninjutsu, wing chun etc certainly aint
partner compliance got to love it get in the ring get the blood and snot flowing and get used to it its that simple
oh and dantae take yourself to a mirror pal and have a serious word with your self your living a dream mate!!!!!!!!!! windmilling whats that lol
frig me has he never seen steve coogan?/
what is everyones malfunction with wanting to be hard? i used to work the doors in leeds and harrogate in the late 80s and seen some real hard men and fact is they were the ones that would always say sorry first if they spilled some ones pint, fact is a hard man feels nothing to prove and feels no shame in walking away from a scrap if he can, to me if your looking for ways to make yourself "harder" then your missing the point totaly its not about kicking heads in its about walking away with your dignity and freedom intact and not laying in bed with the cold sweats freaking out that you may have killed someone, frig me what 's the point in that
be confidant that if it comes to you you can deal with it be that by reacting or running away what ever is the best course of action!!
martial arts are from another time there is no samurai comeing at you on horse back so you dont need to learn how to use a kasari fudo or nunchakas etc its obselite the threat now is multipile attackers trying to shove your pint glass in your face or happy slap you into youtube land just walk away its the best thing and if you cant then drop the biggest f^^ker there as hard and fast as you can and act mental bottle them out (make there adrenal reaction freak them out) then get out of dodge or put your pint down and go to another less nasty pub
but if it all fails then all you can do is learn to hit fast hard and accurate and have the back bone to go with it no bruce lee shite is going to help and karate, ninjutsu, wing chun etc certainly aint
partner compliance got to love it get in the ring get the blood and snot flowing and get used to it its that simple
oh and dantae take yourself to a mirror pal and have a serious word with your self your living a dream mate!!!!!!!!!! windmilling whats that lol
Black belts who freeze as you put it, are not black belts, they are commercial black belts.
As for your basic aggression claim
. Aggression is common practice in martial arts. Look up San Soo
Marinewannabe mentioned conventional weapons. Admittedly, confronting an enemy who is armed with a gun, is likely to only go one way. However, your comment on a gronk with a blade was rushed. There will always be risks involved when doing so, but do you honestly believe a kid with a knife will cause the death of a seriuos martial artist. There are complications, but a boy who "trains" by posing in the mirror, thrusting towards it in a wildly comical fashion, and attempts to execute his technique on a thoroughly educated martial artist
.....it will end up in his own neck.
People train just like you do for the RM, hard and even harder, focusing to the point where nothing else matters. They calculate every possible movement an enemy might make, and although this will never guarentee them complete safety, they stand a significant chance.
If you understand combat, obtain enough experience to power through an adrenaline dump, aswell as dedicating yourself and believing in every perfectly crafted strike you commit. Maybe even five knives won't stop you....... well 5 armed gronks
As for your basic aggression claim
. Aggression is common practice in martial arts. Look up San Soo Marinewannabe mentioned conventional weapons. Admittedly, confronting an enemy who is armed with a gun, is likely to only go one way. However, your comment on a gronk with a blade was rushed. There will always be risks involved when doing so, but do you honestly believe a kid with a knife will cause the death of a seriuos martial artist. There are complications, but a boy who "trains" by posing in the mirror, thrusting towards it in a wildly comical fashion, and attempts to execute his technique on a thoroughly educated martial artist
.....it will end up in his own neck. People train just like you do for the RM, hard and even harder, focusing to the point where nothing else matters. They calculate every possible movement an enemy might make, and although this will never guarentee them complete safety, they stand a significant chance.
If you understand combat, obtain enough experience to power through an adrenaline dump, aswell as dedicating yourself and believing in every perfectly crafted strike you commit. Maybe even five knives won't stop you....... well 5 armed gronks
ermmmmmmmmmm quite simply no your talking out your hoop a knife in the gut will take anyone out or a bottle in the face all your hai karate skills wont save you
ever had a knife pulled you? i have and the first i knew about it was when it was in my belly martial arts teach some things and are off limited use aggression is key and thats only if you get the chance to use it
ever had a knife pulled you? i have and the first i knew about it was when it was in my belly martial arts teach some things and are off limited use aggression is key and thats only if you get the chance to use it
realistic training
I think everyone will agree that being confronted with a knife or gun poses a huge health risk and severely decreases your chances ofcoming out on top!! However if one is training in the martial arts it is inexusable not to train with weapons, and I don't mean in a " come at me like this and I'll do this" way but in as real a senario as one can possibly create. This can be done by simplifying techniques and simulating surprise attacks,using an airsoft gun so you know if you got hit and if that "technique" works or not, using stage blood in knife fights (as you will most probably get cut),training with rubber knives or baseball bats, simulate injuries and practice defending yourself with them etc etc
you can never eliminate the dangers or the possibilty that you might not come out ok, but you can atleast try and prepare yourself realistically for an attack.
you can never eliminate the dangers or the possibilty that you might not come out ok, but you can atleast try and prepare yourself realistically for an attack.
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I have had a knife pulled on me probably 6 or 7 times and always came away unscathed and I attribute it to this-
The guy pulling it is usually wasted so you can either leg it or play up to their ego and talk your way out of it by staying calm and humouring them as being big men.
Only time action was needed i kicked the guy in the nuts and punched him to the deck before legging it,he was half my size and surpised-so was i as i acted involuntarily!That was a lucky one as within 20 yards of me running off i twisted my ankle,thank you know what he did not pursue or i would have been in big trouble!
Like sloth says,learn how to hit hard,fast and properly and put EVERYTHING you have into the initial fray and then split pronto.
I have been very lucky i am aware of that,its nothing else than luck i am not scarred to bits.
I despise the horrible cretins roaming around terrorising decent folk with knives etc.
I hate to sound cliched but national service would take these young guys at the age when they are most likely to get up to this sort of nonsense and give them self-respect,respect for others,discipline,motivation,self-belief and i blelieve these last two are of ultimate importance-a sense of identity and direction in life,without that your lost frustrated and tearing away at yourself and everything around you.
KP.
The guy pulling it is usually wasted so you can either leg it or play up to their ego and talk your way out of it by staying calm and humouring them as being big men.
Only time action was needed i kicked the guy in the nuts and punched him to the deck before legging it,he was half my size and surpised-so was i as i acted involuntarily!That was a lucky one as within 20 yards of me running off i twisted my ankle,thank you know what he did not pursue or i would have been in big trouble!
Like sloth says,learn how to hit hard,fast and properly and put EVERYTHING you have into the initial fray and then split pronto.
I have been very lucky i am aware of that,its nothing else than luck i am not scarred to bits.
I despise the horrible cretins roaming around terrorising decent folk with knives etc.
I hate to sound cliched but national service would take these young guys at the age when they are most likely to get up to this sort of nonsense and give them self-respect,respect for others,discipline,motivation,self-belief and i blelieve these last two are of ultimate importance-a sense of identity and direction in life,without that your lost frustrated and tearing away at yourself and everything around you.
KP.
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altho i havent experienced a knife being pulled on me the genral concenses is yes run ect failing that and all other options rember you are going to get cut and bloody backs of the hands and try to endit as quickly as possible and yep we do wepon training partner comes at us with the knife in as many ways as he can think of and you block counter ect only way to practice
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