I'm boned

[Stinky]

I have 3 runs left before my PRMC and I am only doing 3 miles in 27 minutes! If I do do a little better when I am there how many minutes better about? I'm not delaying my PRMC for a second time.

[tkdvipers]

Hi Stinky

This is my own personal opinion so please take it that way. When I did my prmc back in 2003 I did not know about this forum, knew very little about the prmc was not as fit at running as I am now and went down there thinking "how hard can it be". I never even measured how long it took me to run 3 miles so did not have a clue.

When it came to the 3 miler we ran as a troop and I found that pretty easy, when we did the timed run I can just remember running pretty fast keeping up with people, then really turning it up at the famous "its only pain" sign.

On the day I managed to find it within myself, I just blasted it. I was fit at the time, but I was fighting at a high level in tae kwon do and the kind of fitness we did was very different to the type I have found you really need for prmc and rt.

It sounds like you want to get down there and do it, if you think you can really turn it up on the day maybe you should get down there. If your time is going to float around in your head and disrupt your concentration probably better to re book.

By the way passed my prmc with good scores within the top 5. I went down there a bit oblivious to what I was actually doing. By the time I came back I realised ctcrm is somewhere special.

[Tartan_Terrier]

Not so good!

3 mile run: The first physical test is on the morning of Day 1. The whole 3 miles is run as a squad. This is your opportunity to show the team how well your training has gone. The main aim is to complete the 3 miles in 22.5 minutes or you will fail the course. Remember all physical activities on the PRMC commence with an appropriate warm up - Train accordingly.

Have you been ill? Or is there some other reason why your time isn't better?

I know some people have a tendency to take it a bit easier when running alone, but are more motivated when running with a group. My times for the fitness tests are usually better than I get running alone. Perhaps it's the same for you?

T_T

[jezb]

My opinion only, but 5+ mins is a lot to knock off your 3 mile time.

I would rather delay my prmc than fail one, but I can totally understand why you just want to get down there and give it a go.

[Gravityguy]

It's amazing what you can achieve in a race situation and when the adrenalin is pumping. When i run in a race, my time always beats my best time that i can do when i am training.

Just my personal opinion but i think you might well surprise yourself when you are actually there. You will be more focused and more determined than you ever thought possible.

Hope you do well mate

Mikey[/i]

[lodge939]

you are nowhere near fit enough dude.

[dan_engel]

its all in the mind stinky. sure you need a level of basic fitness, but it really is all about mental strength, and how much you really want this.

[JCAP3]

you are nowhere near fit enough dude.

Agreed. Don't kid yourself Stinky.

[Sully]

It's amazing what you can achieve in a race situation

I wouldn't be under any illusions, this is far from a race situation. The Corps don't want people who push themselves to the absolute limit to achieve some basic target and collapse in a heap at the end of it. Attitude will get you through but going to CTC with that level of fitness shows a poor attitude in terms of preparation and application. Sorry to be harsh on an internet forum but harsh and uncompromising is your future - you need to get used to it - it's worth it.

We were frequently beasted before test situations and even at the end I was beasted heavily (including crawling through stingy nettles ) before my Tarzan passout (I did it separately from the troop as I was sickbayed with septicaemia and took it separately two days before Kings Squad pass out). I had a swimming session (mid November) in the tank afterwards - all tests passed so it was quite enjoyable. They want to see what you can do on empty and CTC empty is beyond what you think is possible now.

I hope you've made a mistake with your measurements or you can otherwise prove us wrong.

[Stinky]

The man who has been helping me to run everyday I ran (every other day) for the past year is in the hospital at the moment, as there is a chance he could have cancer. If I delay and he does have it I will be running on my own, I'll end up going slower and then fail. I don't want him to have ran all that way for nothing. And now that I think about it when I was running 4 miles I was doing it to about 8 minutes a mile, so 3 miles will do 24 minutes. I don't under stand how now I started running 3 miles a at faster pace I have ended up with a worse time. Maybe I have made a miscalucalation.

[JCAP3]

www.mapmyrun.com

Mark your route as close as you can on there (which side of the road you are running on and where you cross over etc) and give us your time for that distance.

[Artist]

Stinky

If you want to join the Corp then knuckle down and get it into your head that your going to have to work hard be it with a training partner or on your own.

Making excuses for your performance is not a good idea. Take it on the chin and work your balls off or you will have problems. OK?

Artist

[Sully]

If you have been better then as a desperation measure just stop running now until the PRMC so you're up for it. Keep your CV up with swimming, cycling or furious self abuse

[Chrisbrum]

Stinky, just my 2p worth but I personally would advise that unless you've made a serious miscalculation in your timings then delay your PRMC. I've made the mistake of overestimating my fitness numerous times over my life, notably when I went down to Lympstone at the age of 16 to undertake a POC, and more recently when I joined a local running and triathlon club. On both occassions I ended up falling behind the main group when running, which was not only highly embarrassing for me, but also resulted in me failing the POC.

As Artist said, people won't take excuses. You're either fit enough or you aren't. A 27min 3 miler is not good enough. I imagine your friend who is in hospital would much prefer you to delay a bit and then pass than fail outright. I appreciate what you're saying about finding it difficult to push yourself when training on your own, but if you really really want it then you'll do it. Alternatively, look for another training partner, or find a local running club - running clubs are something that I can highly recommend.

Anyway, it's up to you mate. You know what's required and only you know if you're ready. Don't kid yourself, be honest, and if you think you need to be fitter then delay it or you'll find yourself having to wait 6 months before you can have another crack.

Best of luck whatever you decide.

Chris

Edit: POC at the age of 16, not 6 - my keyboard is knackered

[gjd1986]

If you can't keep up with the main group on the 3 miler which is ran at a nice steady pace, between 21.5 and 22.5 mins (it felt like that), then you will fail, alot of lads on ours failed the run even though they completed it, just in a slower time.