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General discussions on joining & training in the Royal Marines.
HCR
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Post by HCR »

Im sorry if Im starting this sh*te pointless thread off again but the "12 weeks basic training comment" made towards the Army as gripped my sh*t.

Do some people really beleive a lad is taken from civvie street and then considered ready for Ops in just 12 WEEKS come on for f*ck sake.

NO ONE serving in the Army as done just 12 weeks basic training. The 12 weeks basic is just phase 1 of a 2 phase basic training course. And depending what your joining depends on how long phase 2 is. ie Infantry do phase 2 Infantry training, Engineers do Engineer phase 2 training, Artillary do Artillary and so on and so on. Add phase 1 and 2 together then you get the real lenth of basic training a lad in the Army as done. And you will find a lad joining the Infantry will only be afew weeks short of 32 weeks.
Do you really believe the lads fighting in Iraq and Afgan are twonks who have just done 12 weeks marching and ironing kit. Do you think the Paras have only done 12 weeks or a Royal Engineer or a Recce soldier like myself.

Its just like RM basic training, you have a top field phase then a bottom field phase am I wrong. Would a RM Recruit be considered ready after just completing the top field no he would'nt.

Im sorry if this causes an argumentive responce but im not going to take cr*p comments from people who dont know what they are saying. And before someone says this is a RM forum I just want to say I didnt take any crap from a Bootneck in the Galley at Bastion so I wont in a Internet forum. :D
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Post by Rompton »

Although i agree with you. the US marines only have 12 weeks training and the US airborne 10 weeks training the i think 6 weeks jumping out of planes.
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Post by Alfa »

Rompton wrote:Although i agree with you. the US marines only have 12 weeks training and the US airborne 10 weeks training the i think 6 weeks jumping out of planes.
That's cause they do their advance training at their unit. It's also why there's a wide variety of quality between units ie; some do an intensive programme for the new recruits where as some hardly bother.
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HCR wrote: And before someone says this is a RM forum I just want to say I didnt take any crap from a Bootneck in the Galley at Bastion so I wont in a Internet forum. :D
It takes a real man to defend his e-honour. There should be a Hollywood film about it :lol:
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Post by Rover »

Gentlemen.

I find it rather sad that this thread has degenerated into a 'my unit/corps is better than yours' slanging match.

The services operate on TEAM work and there is no I in TEAM!

With regards to Commandos, be it Army, Royal Marine and Royal Navy Commando, if you have passed the Commando training then you are a Commando.

I find it disrespectful to those Army Commando units, who started the Commando ethos even before the Royal Marines, should be so forgotten.

Prior to becoming Commando trained even the Royal Marines were infantry! :wink:

Learn from history.

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its ashame really that the US do that , but with an army as massive as theres i suppose it would cost billions and billions to undertake the sort of training the brits, germans etc do.
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Rover wrote:Gentlemen.

I find it rather sad that this thread has degenerated into a 'my unit/corps is better than yours' slanging match.

The services operate on TEAM work and there is no I in TEAM!

With regards to Commandos, be it Army, Royal Marine and Royal Navy Commando, if you have passed the Commando training then you are a Commando.

I find it disrespectful to those Army Commando units, who started the Commando ethos even before the Royal Marines, should be so forgotten.

Prior to becoming Commando trained even the Royal Marines were infantry! :wink:

Learn from history.

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Some common sense at last!


MFAT is about fitness and training, it's not a site for posters to take out their frustration on others, a bit of banter is fine but anything leave it at home... No need to create bad feeling here.

Also looking at the post from Digitalfreefall perhaps we should have picked up on this earlier as it should really be on Militaryforums and not here it was bound to create an unwanted problem.
Last edited by mfat_man on Mon 20 Nov, 2006 1:07 pm, edited 1 time in total.
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Post by mfat_man »

BTW

I've just seen some comments on the page before that are completely out of order for what is a tri-services site.... Very dissapointed by this.
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anyone who manages to pass the AACC has my respect regardless of the force they are from
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