If you want to know if ive experimented with drugs, the answer is simple No im not that bloody stupid.
Does that answer your question.
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Wholley
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Wholley with all due respect though, I would presume you see the worst of everything in your job. The worst of alcohol, the worst of people, the worst of a cars wheel over someones head, the worst of firearms etc...
I dont take drugs but I would guarantee many people here who are demonising drugs are hypocritical, you like the works of Picasso? Some of the most imaginative and avant garde pieces of artwork ever. ON DRUGS. The Beatles? Rolling Stones? Hendrix? Lennon? Bowie? ON DRUGS. Lord Byron`s poetry? ON DRUGS. Sigmund Freud? ON DRUGS. Ernest Hemingway? ON DRUGS. Aldous Huxley? ON DRUGS. Edgar Allan Poe? ON DRUGS. Churchill? ON DRUGS!
If you are to stand by your code of ethics you should now gather all literature, CDs and what not of all said people, put it in a heap and set fire to it.
Oh maybe to get pedantic we could include Bill Gates, a frequent LSD user (he is one of the richest men on the planet, incase you dont know) who would have thought a 'junkie' could do that. So please take a hammer to your computer and smash it up. Your condoning drug use otherwise.
PS. I`d like to add that drug use in some sectors is totally wrong and irresponsible i.e Police work, medical, military etc.. Anyone partaking in this should be put to death. Selfish, greedy, nasty, self centred, idiotic, uneducated waste of spaces.
I dont take drugs but I would guarantee many people here who are demonising drugs are hypocritical, you like the works of Picasso? Some of the most imaginative and avant garde pieces of artwork ever. ON DRUGS. The Beatles? Rolling Stones? Hendrix? Lennon? Bowie? ON DRUGS. Lord Byron`s poetry? ON DRUGS. Sigmund Freud? ON DRUGS. Ernest Hemingway? ON DRUGS. Aldous Huxley? ON DRUGS. Edgar Allan Poe? ON DRUGS. Churchill? ON DRUGS!
If you are to stand by your code of ethics you should now gather all literature, CDs and what not of all said people, put it in a heap and set fire to it.
Oh maybe to get pedantic we could include Bill Gates, a frequent LSD user (he is one of the richest men on the planet, incase you dont know) who would have thought a 'junkie' could do that. So please take a hammer to your computer and smash it up. Your condoning drug use otherwise.
PS. I`d like to add that drug use in some sectors is totally wrong and irresponsible i.e Police work, medical, military etc.. Anyone partaking in this should be put to death. Selfish, greedy, nasty, self centred, idiotic, uneducated waste of spaces.
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flo
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Chappy whilst i agree with your final paragraph, i do think however that your percieved examples are a bit extreme and are taking this debate on to a completely different level. And therefor not helping the originator of this thread. I do agree with wholleys take on things as he has seen it and had to deal with it, all in the line of duty.
But i will say that everything happens on this planet for a reason and i personally, as does wholley and a good few posting members prefer to take the stance on anti-drugs. I do know people who have dabbled and many of them have come to regret ever having done so. So forgive me if i sound offensive but i will continue to fight that drugs of any form are dangerous and should not be encouraged.
As to the example given with regards to excessive drinking within the marines, i would like to clarify one point. Yes we all have a drink, sometimes to excessive but when you are away on deployment you have no access to alchohol and you are not addicted to drink,so therefor can complete the job in earnest, but drugs that CAN become a different matter.
But i will say that everything happens on this planet for a reason and i personally, as does wholley and a good few posting members prefer to take the stance on anti-drugs. I do know people who have dabbled and many of them have come to regret ever having done so. So forgive me if i sound offensive but i will continue to fight that drugs of any form are dangerous and should not be encouraged.
As to the example given with regards to excessive drinking within the marines, i would like to clarify one point. Yes we all have a drink, sometimes to excessive but when you are away on deployment you have no access to alchohol and you are not addicted to drink,so therefor can complete the job in earnest, but drugs that CAN become a different matter.
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Wholley
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What a ridiculous comparison.Chappy wrote:
I dont take drugs but I would guarantee many people here who are demonising drugs are hypocritical, you like the works of Picasso? Some of the most imaginative and avant garde pieces of artwork ever. ON DRUGS. The Beatles? Rolling Stones? Hendrix? Lennon? Bowie? ON DRUGS. Lord Byron`s poetry? ON DRUGS. Sigmund Freud? ON DRUGS. Ernest Hemingway? ON DRUGS. Aldous Huxley? ON DRUGS. Edgar Allan Poe? ON DRUGS. Churchill? ON DRUGS!
How many people did the above beat to death with a baseball bat just for five bucks so they could buy more meth?
I dont know about everyone else but one of the reasons im joining the marines is to get away from the drug sniffing chav types that are going no where in life and are complete bums.
If i were in training or serving along side someone whos taking drugs i dont think i could trust them to cover my back and isnt that what the marines is all about being a close family and being able to trust each other.
If i were in training or serving along side someone whos taking drugs i dont think i could trust them to cover my back and isnt that what the marines is all about being a close family and being able to trust each other.
well putIf i were in training or serving along side someone whos taking drugs i dont think i could trust them to cover my back and isnt that what the marines is all about being a close family and being able to trust each other.
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ridiculous comparison?not as ridiculous as comparing someone who experimented with drugs then left them alone when they joined the corp to someone who would 'beat you to death with a baseball bat just for five bucks so they could buy more meth?'
i think youve all got this ill-informed misconception about drugs from your old teachers and the government.alcohol kills far more people a year than weed and is statistically far more dangerous and addictive.but cos its legal its ok isnt it?no-weed is only illegal because the government wouldnt be able to enforce tax on it.but because the government tells you, the drug cannabis equals evil,the drug alcohol equals ok to use, so you all binge on it.open your eyes people and stop hiding behind this hippocrytical arrogance that you seem to have aquired.
look people, i know your stance on drugs and now know the seriousness of them in relation to the marines, but some of you are going on as if there pure evil and the work of the devil-i know some of you detest drugs etc. but please open your eyes and realise that it goes on around you and in many cases its not that bad(im talking about life in general here not necessarily in the corp) and that most users arent scum: please dont judge me and associate me with 'chav scum' or 'dirty druggies' or all the insults that have be thrown at me because you dont even know me and thats just not the case...
im not addicted, am only a VERY OCASSIONAL user who is experimenting, i live a healthy lifestyle,eat the right food,dont smoke,only drink socially,go to the gym twice a day and i would consider myself to be fit.i come from a good working class family and live in a good area. i know lawyers, teachers and even policemen who are functioning drug users and all are successful people so less of the predjudicing that all drug users are scum.
now i wouldnt even contemplate using drugs in the corp and plan to stop shortly,years before i plan to join up,and if i prove my worth by getting the green lid and not touching the stuff again would you still not trust me and think im scum?
i think youve all got this ill-informed misconception about drugs from your old teachers and the government.alcohol kills far more people a year than weed and is statistically far more dangerous and addictive.but cos its legal its ok isnt it?no-weed is only illegal because the government wouldnt be able to enforce tax on it.but because the government tells you, the drug cannabis equals evil,the drug alcohol equals ok to use, so you all binge on it.open your eyes people and stop hiding behind this hippocrytical arrogance that you seem to have aquired.
look people, i know your stance on drugs and now know the seriousness of them in relation to the marines, but some of you are going on as if there pure evil and the work of the devil-i know some of you detest drugs etc. but please open your eyes and realise that it goes on around you and in many cases its not that bad(im talking about life in general here not necessarily in the corp) and that most users arent scum: please dont judge me and associate me with 'chav scum' or 'dirty druggies' or all the insults that have be thrown at me because you dont even know me and thats just not the case...
im not addicted, am only a VERY OCASSIONAL user who is experimenting, i live a healthy lifestyle,eat the right food,dont smoke,only drink socially,go to the gym twice a day and i would consider myself to be fit.i come from a good working class family and live in a good area. i know lawyers, teachers and even policemen who are functioning drug users and all are successful people so less of the predjudicing that all drug users are scum.
now i wouldnt even contemplate using drugs in the corp and plan to stop shortly,years before i plan to join up,and if i prove my worth by getting the green lid and not touching the stuff again would you still not trust me and think im scum?
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flo
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You say you plan to stop, but can you? What if you do pass out and become a Royal marine and your home on leave, if one of your friends from your experimental days offers you a toke, would you say no or more to the point could you say no.
I for one am not having a personal dig at you, im just trying to make you see my side of the coin. You asked for opinions and that is what you got, but you are very defensive about experimenting, and im not sure who you are trying to convince but sorry mate it just wont wash, especially on this site.
But have you asked the recruiting officer his stance on it, or not!!!
I for one am not having a personal dig at you, im just trying to make you see my side of the coin. You asked for opinions and that is what you got, but you are very defensive about experimenting, and im not sure who you are trying to convince but sorry mate it just wont wash, especially on this site.
But have you asked the recruiting officer his stance on it, or not!!!
well i havent smoked weed for nearly two years, havent done pills for about 3 and a half months, and dont even feel like i need to either so yes i do think i can stop-i can even go out and have a good time without having a drink so i definately dont have an addictive personality and i am very health conscious-im grateful for the advice and ive took it on board:i asked for opinions and i got opinions and insults-i dont need to ask the recruit officer cos ive pretty much already got his answer off you lot
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Wholley
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.old skool wrote:
i think youve all got this ill-informed misconception about drugs from your old teachers and the government.
im not addicted, am only a VERY OCASSIONAL user who is experimenting,
NO.
Iv'e got it from life you pillock.
Finish High school or where ever you are right now.
Then come back and talk to me,Or Your local recruiting Office.
I don't care how often you use Illegall drugs,Come near me dear boy,
You WILL go to Jail.
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mfat_man
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W... it's a wind up. Why does this guy keep going on about it? what other posts has he made?Wholley wrote:.old skool wrote:
i think youve all got this ill-informed misconception about drugs from your old teachers and the government.
im not addicted, am only a VERY OCASSIONAL user who is experimenting,
NO.
Iv'e got it from life you pillock.
Finish High school or where ever you are right now.
Then come back and talk to me,Or Your local recruiting Office.
I don't care how often you use Illegall drugs,Come near me dear boy,
You WILL go to Jail.
Hes too clever for this his own good. Either get caught testing and/or have to face my Para friend who did the quote on "regimental pride" being affected. Not a good idea but he'll find out in time
Lets move on. J
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flo
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