PRMC

[faddius]

noone should put themselves down for failing their PRMC, the truth is they have to actually fail a percentage of people, even if its just 1. So just cause you aint picked, doesnt mean you werent good enough, just means you were not the best in the bunch of people that were there

Sorry but a load of touchy feeley lump of sh!te.!

Means you didn't do
60 pressups
85 Situps
6 Pullups
At least 11 on bleep
Under 4.00 on assault course
3 miler
Blah blah blah.

Standards set in stone.

[Nade]

It must not be extremely hard to run assault course on PRMC in under 4 mins is it? My bro did it in under that time with full kit on. Im not sure how much under that time though (Just incase someone was gonna ask). I just know he did it under 4 mins.

[slaphead_17]

yes but the warm up just before the assault course is very hard on the PRMC so your nackered by the time you do the assault course, (i know i was) i did it in 4.18 and gave it everything.

[johnno2004]

yeah the warm up is fun! i did mine in 3.19 the instructors thought that was a good time, i just grit my teeth and gave it all i had, was pretty nackered after it but it was worth it knowing i gave it my best

[Bliartheliar]

I dont think that they have to fail people on each course. They may have a course whereby they pass most people, and also a course where most fail. I dont think they have quotas or anything. It would be impossilbe to keep the standards high. Like on the the Lt Colonels said to us down there 'we want you to pass, but we wont lower standards.' I also dont think the scores are set in stone. If they think you are fit enough and you dont fail they will pass you. If you lack fitness but complete the tests, they may give you a PRMCDC or give you more time to prepare before basic. If you fail the tests but show determination, they will give you another go at PRMC. If you are f@#k in the head or utterly and completely lost and hopeless, they will tell you to f@#k off and not bother coming back. Thats what I think anyway.

[W.Mitty]

There are no quotas on PRMC, if you make the grade you will pass, end of story, infact at the momment with the current prob of getting people to even attened a PRMC they are being more leaninant, I know this as when I was in Hunter we were having to do bleep tests every day to see weather it was harder in the gym or the drill shed, this was with a view on changing it for PRMC.

I think its pretty much of unheard off for every one on a prmc to pass.

[slaphead_17]

If i was to be honest, i was surprised by how many people passed on my PRMC. i thought they would be very selective but everybody who made it to the end without quitting passed. I’m certainly not saying it was easy but some of the guys who passed did get quite low scores in some stuff.

[Bliartheliar]

Same on mine - everybody who got to the end who didnt already know they had failed passed. Out of about 50, 40 passed and one was given PRMDC. No one else failed after the three miler (except for one lad who got injured), so I persoanlly think its best to put that first. Cardio fitness seemed to be the most important requirement, even for gym test 1 when you need to recover quickly after the bleep test and before the upper body stuff. Thier were people who couldnt do many press ups and pull ups but managed to pass.

[dalo]

Personnaly people shouldnt bother if the PRMC is getting made easier etc, i mean there is still the commando tests at the end of the course, and the training teams have to get recruits ready for that so training would have to remain the same.

[Ayrey]

Reading about it, I wouldn't necessarily say that PRMC is getting easier. For example, with the 3 miler done on the first day, less people will fail simply because their legs are too tired (ie not training in such a way to be prepared for it), but they will still be tested on their determination on day two when both of the real hard tests are now done.

Although, do bare in mind, I have yet to do my PRMC and I am by no means any expert of PT, so I'm basing this on second hand information

Out of general interest, could anyone whos done their PRMC lately post some of the average scores their course, just to get an understanding of what physical fitness some potential recruits are at when they turn up for PRMC?

[slaphead_17]

i just did my PRMC mate, and peoples scores do vary. but id say the average is about

. Press-ups = 40-45
. Sit-ups = 60 = 65
. Pull-ups = 7 = 8
. Bleep test = 11.5-12


some people can max out some stuff but do poorly in others.

Your scores really are not that important mate its more about just getting through gym test 2 and bottom field without quitting. i concentrated to much on what my scores where before i did my PRMC and I wish I hadn’t.

if im to think about it on this new format of the PRMC, the first day would be easy but the second will be a killer. (i did the old one E.G gym test 1, assault course, 3 miler and gym test 2)

[Ayrey]

Thanks slaphead, you've reassured me even further

I was under the impression that most lads averaged the maximums (ie 60 Press-ups, 80 Sit-ups, etc) on their PRMC, but looking at that (I understand its just one course of many), it seems I should come in average with everyone else down there.

EDIT: One further question. I can average 7 min. mile pace over 30 mins. fairly fine. Is this 1) sufficient to pass the 3 miler and 2) equat to a possible lvl 11-12 on the VO2 max?

I have no way of testing my VO2 max, and I worry a little about this, so it'll be interesting to know if its possible to approximate a lvl from normal running, if you understand what I mean

[W.Mitty]

Dont worry about the VO2 test, you would have to be a complete beefer to fail it, as for you running I dont run at 7 min miles it would probably kill me I only have 10 weeks left at CTCRM, but I still get over leval 12 I think my average is about 12.2 and as I am a crap runner thats good enough for me.

Try and do 20mins hard phys then go out and do the 3 miler, if you come under time you will have no probs on the day, also make sure you do loads of hill sprints etc.. to help you on bottom field.

[James D]

People who complete the PRMC don't always pass the course, on my PRMC we had two guys who completed it but were failed or they were asked to attend the PRMDC. One of the PTIs who I asked why the 3miler was changed to the first test on day 1 told me that the 3 miler is the test where most potential recruits drop out.

[dalo]

My AFCO told me that its just to even out the amount of work on each day. But PTI's down at CTCRM would be in a better position to comment on the change than someone in a AFCO. But i think the change sounds as if it will filter out more determined recruits having gym test 2 and bottom field etc on the second day. Also there is the 3 miler to be done on the same day as the bleep test etc and that definetly would be naughty.