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Bert you put a tear in my eye. I'll admit I loved the Col and everything he stood for and his passing hurts a bit. Thanks for welcoming us and tollerating me and all.
You are right though, we need to get back up soon and reorganize and apolitically advocate like the Col. did for the troops, not turn their memory and sacrafice into a political election plank for the political sharks to exploit and rip apart.
Thanks for the reminder Harry, just in a bit of shock over the banning and the pms I just read. It hasn't been over a full month really.
I swear it is like watching the revenge of the sith in this country actually happening.
Never would I have thought I'd see a president given the power to play war forever, send an army to attack a country who never attacked us or ask to repeal laws that prevent US troops from being used on US citizens.
And never did I think that our freedom of speech we troops stood on the line to protect would be denied to us by our own, nor traitors to be elected to office and allowed to run amuck in the streets.
Being soldout by your own is the shocker though, but I saw it coming, just not so soon.
You are right though, we need to get back up soon and reorganize and apolitically advocate like the Col. did for the troops, not turn their memory and sacrafice into a political election plank for the political sharks to exploit and rip apart.
Thanks for the reminder Harry, just in a bit of shock over the banning and the pms I just read. It hasn't been over a full month really.
I swear it is like watching the revenge of the sith in this country actually happening.
Never would I have thought I'd see a president given the power to play war forever, send an army to attack a country who never attacked us or ask to repeal laws that prevent US troops from being used on US citizens.
And never did I think that our freedom of speech we troops stood on the line to protect would be denied to us by our own, nor traitors to be elected to office and allowed to run amuck in the streets.
Being soldout by your own is the shocker though, but I saw it coming, just not so soon.
Let them call me a rebel and I welcome it, I feel no concern from it; but I should suffer the misery of demons were I to make a whore of my soul. (Thomas Paine)
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Afi I'm so glad to see you here man, I was hoping that our talks would continue. Made my day. Subs are great forums. Wholley and Frank are Americans and oldtimers. Frank and Wholley have helped me out several times and even on personal issues. Bert was my Sea Daddy, he went to bat for me back when I was fresh out of the service mixed up and crazy. I'm proud to call him my friend. Stix is cool, be cooler if he'd move to the states and go Elk hunting with me and Artist, he taught me even a psychopath has a gentle and tender side. I love everyone here except Doc,
Just kidding he was like me, a corpsman with the Marines, well RM's. In the subs forums you can tell Bert and the rest of the meat eaters here what you really are.
It is safe in there. I think once you are in you'll get membership into the retreat quickly.
Hard to believe isn't it, the people we fought for freedom are freer than us as far as personal choices and speech go. We had more liberty under king George than our George. Unbelievable.
I'm like you though, I've bitched enough. Just glad you made it in, now if only Eric would come in.


It is safe in there. I think once you are in you'll get membership into the retreat quickly.
Hard to believe isn't it, the people we fought for freedom are freer than us as far as personal choices and speech go. We had more liberty under king George than our George. Unbelievable.
I'm like you though, I've bitched enough. Just glad you made it in, now if only Eric would come in.
Let them call me a rebel and I welcome it, I feel no concern from it; but I should suffer the misery of demons were I to make a whore of my soul. (Thomas Paine)
No we can't Chris and sorry I can't explain it any better. The Col. was why we were there, why we were allowed to be how we were. We got binned for doing nothing we haven't been doing for over a year. Col. died and they want to clean house, basically that is how I see it.
Let them call me a rebel and I welcome it, I feel no concern from it; but I should suffer the misery of demons were I to make a whore of my soul. (Thomas Paine)
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So what are your options now? Surely the majority of the people of that forum feel the same way as yourself, so cant you do something about it?Whitey wrote:No we can't Chris and sorry I can't explain it any better. The Col. was why we were there, why we were allowed to be how we were. We got binned for doing nothing we haven't been doing for over a year. Col. died and they want to clean house, basically that is how I see it.
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That is an excellent point, thanks for bringing it up as it is very close to my heart. So if I may share a couple thoughts on the subject, just a couple...Doc wrote:Dont Americans type alot![]()
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A recent overlooked Web trend—overlooked by the mainstream media, at least—is the proliferation of public diaries, generically referred to as Blogs. The term originated from "WeB log" and was further promoted by pyra.com as a Blog at its www.blogger.com site, although www.pita.com is considered the original source of easy-to-use Web logging. People who "Blog" are called Bloggers, and right now there are hundreds, thousands of Blogs on the Net.
The vanity page is dead; long live the Blog. The vanity Web page has lost momentum. People who posted one have already done so, and the growth has slowed. Most are uninteresting and uninspired. Cat pictures dominate too many of them. A Blog is the next iteration, and most vanity site mavens have gravitated toward these things. Serious vanity site developers have gone into posting hobby or special-interest sites, having learned by experience how to make an attractive Web page. This is, indeed, progress.
And the universe of these diaries can even be searched at various specialty search sites, such as www.blogfinder.com.
Generally speaking, these postings are fascinating, since they often have serious elements of Hyde Park corner blather, besides blatant exhibitionism and obvious self-indulgence. And whatever you think of them, you'll admit that they are much more interesting than the static vanity site from years ago.
One of the best examples you'll find on the Web of a homebrew special-interest site is the stunning Jacob's Bugatti Pages at http://homepage.mac.com/bugatti/jacob. If you have a hobby and want to make the Web part of that hobby, then look no further than Jacob's for inspiration. But if you just want to pontificate and talk about yourself, start a Blog.
Blogging goes beyond software posting and uses an entire system that allows for easy creation. With a Blog there is no coding to do. The Blog is usually more attractive than sloppy HTML done by an amateur, and by nature it demands updating so that the material is kept current. People can't resist updating the diary and apologize if they don't do it—as if anyone really cares. You have to be dedicated to a Web site to keep it current. Not so the Blog; it's more addictive. And hobbyist Blogs have emerged. For example, some people like to watch a lot of movies and review them. They see a movie and immediately post their comments. Some of these homebrew reviewers are better than the pros.
Still, with the few hobbyist exceptions, Blogs are mostly personal diaries. Here's where the sociology comes in. Why, exactly, do people want to have other people read these ramblings? Many are incriminating! Ask a Web log addict why he or she does it and you'll get a range of answers that tend towards the "because it's easy" or "because it's fun!" bromides. I think there are deeper reasons. Here are a few obvious possibilities:
Ego gratification. Some people need to be the center of attention. It makes them feel good about themselves to tell the world what important things they've been doing and what profound thoughts they've been having. Curiously, while this looks like the most obvious reason for a Web log, I think it's probably the least likely reason, since it's too trite and shallow.
Antidepersonalization. When people begin to think that they are nothing more than a cog in the wheel of society, they look for any way to differentiate themselves. The Web log proves they are different. Just read it. You'll see.
Elimination of frustration. Day-to-day life, especially in the city, is wrought with frustration, and the Web log gives people the ability to complain to the world. You get to read a lot of complaining in these logs. If you think I'm a complainer, oh boy!
Societal need to share. As a cynic who gets paid to write, I have a hard time with this explanation. But it seems some people genuinely like to "share," and this is one way.
Wanna-be writers. A lot of people want to be published writers. Blogs make it happen without the hassle of getting someone else to do it or having to write well—although there is good writing to be found. Some is shockingly good. Most of it is miserable. I expect to see those Open Learning classes around the country offering courses in Blog writing.
Whatever the reason for the Blog phenomenon, it's not going to go away anytime soon. The main positive change: far fewer cat pictures!
Hey Doc you got some blue pills? I'm pissing fire "mate" from an encounter I had over at the other site.
Anyway, Frank, Wholley, Harry and everyone, we all loved the Col. the Col. was the only reason I was there really in more ways than one evidently and I think the Col. liked all of us. Just ain't that way no more.
Doc we do type a lot, but hey reading makes you smart.
Anyway as for this forum glad to be home, hope you like my friends. One is a genuine Marine, the other a Marine now turned into a Ninja, a MP and an EOD expert and I'm waiting for Eric the photo man to show up. Eric is really cool. You have met him before.
Then there are a few others.
As for the retreat, if they join I vouch for all of them I mentioned up front.
All of them are combat veterans btw, so no Walters n this bunch.
Thanks for letting us crash, we'll earn our keep.
Again Harry, thanks for the words, and the reminder.
Frank, how do they say in French? Je mizzez vous verrrie much mon cherie. Or something like that?
Wholley? Hows the back? Tried to call you yeasterday, I got fag class tonite so I'll try back on friday. Long time no talk, plus I bought a new gun and got questions.
Artist? What the fk "mate" you got no love for me?
Doc, blue pills! My pipes are burning
Stix, I expect to see you this summer over here in the mountians, or in the winter if you like Elk
Frank maybe I should translate, I missed ya. Oh and everything worked out on the H-2 thing.
Thanks though, good looking out.

Anyway, Frank, Wholley, Harry and everyone, we all loved the Col. the Col. was the only reason I was there really in more ways than one evidently and I think the Col. liked all of us. Just ain't that way no more.
Doc we do type a lot, but hey reading makes you smart.
Anyway as for this forum glad to be home, hope you like my friends. One is a genuine Marine, the other a Marine now turned into a Ninja, a MP and an EOD expert and I'm waiting for Eric the photo man to show up. Eric is really cool. You have met him before.
Then there are a few others.
As for the retreat, if they join I vouch for all of them I mentioned up front.
All of them are combat veterans btw, so no Walters n this bunch.
Thanks for letting us crash, we'll earn our keep.
Again Harry, thanks for the words, and the reminder.
Frank, how do they say in French? Je mizzez vous verrrie much mon cherie. Or something like that?
Wholley? Hows the back? Tried to call you yeasterday, I got fag class tonite so I'll try back on friday. Long time no talk, plus I bought a new gun and got questions.
Artist? What the fk "mate" you got no love for me?
Doc, blue pills! My pipes are burning

Stix, I expect to see you this summer over here in the mountians, or in the winter if you like Elk

Frank maybe I should translate, I missed ya. Oh and everything worked out on the H-2 thing.

Let them call me a rebel and I welcome it, I feel no concern from it; but I should suffer the misery of demons were I to make a whore of my soul. (Thomas Paine)
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SFTT Forum... laaaaaned on us!".....
analogy ( pick one ) from:
Movie, ... Robin Hood; Men In Tights
"We didn't laaannd on Sherwood Forest.....
Sherwood Forrest Laannnnnded on us!".......
Or
Historical... Malcom X
"We didn't laaaand on Plymouth Rock....
Plymouth Rrrrock.... Laannnnnded on us!"........
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"We didn't laaaaaaannnnnd on SFTT Forum...
SFTT Forum... laaaaaned on us!".....
analogy ( pick one ) from:
Movie, ... Robin Hood; Men In Tights
"We didn't laaannd on Sherwood Forest.....
Sherwood Forrest Laannnnnded on us!".......
Or
Historical... Malcom X
"We didn't laaaand on Plymouth Rock....
Plymouth Rrrrock.... Laannnnnded on us!"........
ELP

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