Right chaps, and you know amongst yourselves who this is aimed at....
I dont want to discourage people who are looking to join the Corps or apply for the AACC to ask gen questions about how to go about it and what life is like etc....
BUT.................
These constant questions about whats the best way to do a pressup, when can you go to the toilet etc are farking bone and pointless.
Pointless in that the responses you will get are either from other people yet to join and are guesstimating or lads who have done it rolling their eyes and ripping the piss.
The things that will get you into and through Lympstone are things like
Determination
Being Open Minded
Maturity
Fitness
Lack of Injury
Sense of Humour
to name just a few, you cant plan or prepare for every segment and try and pass before you even get there. If everyone knew what to expect and did what was expected all of the time they would change the system because in my experience what makes a Green lid stand out is his ability to expect the unexpected and adapt and continue on his objective.
How to do a proper pressup or how to get up are the leaast of your worries, and if your concerned enough to post on a forum these questions I would suggest life in 3 Cdo isnt for you.
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Once at CTC Pressups will become a way of life.
You make a silly mistake you will be told "Give me 20". Do it again and it will go up to 40 and so on.
Get your heads around stuff like Mapreading. How do you do a resection? How do you work out to the nearest foot just where your are in relation to the Map? How do you find out what the terrain is going to be like that you have to cover? How long will it take? Where can you lie up? umpteen things in fact.
You will have to be able to use a Compass correctly be it 12 noon or 12 midnight. The Compass, the Map and the Protractor will become some of the most important bits of kit you will ever carry. Your going to have to learn how to plot a route from A to Z via all the other letters in the alphabet. You will learn how to "Aim Off" from a route so you don't walk into the enemy and get Zapped.
Get used to putting your stuff away neat and tidy at all times. Because the sight of a bunch of Nods being "Bumbed" at 3 in the morning and trying to get their kit sorted is a sight to behold. If you don't need it put it away safe. After the first exercise the training teams have a fieldday collecting all the kit left by the recruits. Then the pressups come thick and fast.
Get into a routine and stick to that routine and in time it will become second nature to you. Might sound daft but it works people. There are lots of other things to take in and learn during the first few weeks but most crack it and enjoy training, it's the ones who don't know whether to wind their arse or scratch their watches who get left behind. Watch the training teams and how they live and work when they are in the field with you. They can teach you without them knowing it in other words.
Artist
You make a silly mistake you will be told "Give me 20". Do it again and it will go up to 40 and so on.
Get your heads around stuff like Mapreading. How do you do a resection? How do you work out to the nearest foot just where your are in relation to the Map? How do you find out what the terrain is going to be like that you have to cover? How long will it take? Where can you lie up? umpteen things in fact.
You will have to be able to use a Compass correctly be it 12 noon or 12 midnight. The Compass, the Map and the Protractor will become some of the most important bits of kit you will ever carry. Your going to have to learn how to plot a route from A to Z via all the other letters in the alphabet. You will learn how to "Aim Off" from a route so you don't walk into the enemy and get Zapped.
Get used to putting your stuff away neat and tidy at all times. Because the sight of a bunch of Nods being "Bumbed" at 3 in the morning and trying to get their kit sorted is a sight to behold. If you don't need it put it away safe. After the first exercise the training teams have a fieldday collecting all the kit left by the recruits. Then the pressups come thick and fast.
Get into a routine and stick to that routine and in time it will become second nature to you. Might sound daft but it works people. There are lots of other things to take in and learn during the first few weeks but most crack it and enjoy training, it's the ones who don't know whether to wind their arse or scratch their watches who get left behind. Watch the training teams and how they live and work when they are in the field with you. They can teach you without them knowing it in other words.
Artist
Yeah but don’t you think if we knew the little things from the start we wouldn’t have to worry about them at Lympstone (if we ever get there)? An from what I have heard you guys talking about there are bigger fish to fry than getting a press up correct but if we could perfect that press up it would be out of our mind completely then we could start to enjoy the fun of map reading. An I doubt you can say before your training/selection you weren’t worrying about the little things, its easy to say once your in.
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If im honest i wasnt, but didnt have the access to the info that you guys get. I just went and took what was thrown at me
They arent expecting trained marines, that's their job TO TRAIN YOU
info is great, but info overload can cause concern and worry when there isnt any need to.
I agree with the term prior preperation and planning can prevent piss poor performance, but the internet creates hyperchondriacs out of people with belly ache and stupid questions about pressups from future bootnecks.
By the time you finish at CTC you will be an expert at them, I'd worry about them then and just get fit for now.
They arent expecting trained marines, that's their job TO TRAIN YOU
info is great, but info overload can cause concern and worry when there isnt any need to.
I agree with the term prior preperation and planning can prevent piss poor performance, but the internet creates hyperchondriacs out of people with belly ache and stupid questions about pressups from future bootnecks.
By the time you finish at CTC you will be an expert at them, I'd worry about them then and just get fit for now.
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I never even thought about bloody Press Ups prior to Joining!
All that concerned me was would I fit in with the rest of the blokes? Fitness never entered my head because as far as I was concerned I was fit because I always had been.
Every other day someone comes on here with the same stupid daft questions! What are Press Ups! How do you do Press Ups! Do Press Ups hurt!!! I'm fed up to the back teeth with bloody questions about Press Ups! They are nothing to worry about for Gods sake!
Worry about climbing a thirty foot rope with all your kit. Worry about doing a full regain over the water tank. Worry about speed marching two miles, three miles, six miles and nine miles wearing a full fighting order and your rifle at a pace of one mile every ten minutes! Worry about running 30 miles over Dartmoor wearing all your kit in eight hours. Worry about doing the assault course in five minutes. Worry about doing the Tarzan course in the same time then worry about doing the Tarzan/Assault course in ten minutes! As it is you will be slowly brought up to the required standard by guys who know how far to push a recruit, when to let him rest, when he's got more in him etc, etc. But for pitys sake bin the questions about Poxy, Bloody Press Ups people please!!
Artist
All that concerned me was would I fit in with the rest of the blokes? Fitness never entered my head because as far as I was concerned I was fit because I always had been.
Every other day someone comes on here with the same stupid daft questions! What are Press Ups! How do you do Press Ups! Do Press Ups hurt!!! I'm fed up to the back teeth with bloody questions about Press Ups! They are nothing to worry about for Gods sake!
Worry about climbing a thirty foot rope with all your kit. Worry about doing a full regain over the water tank. Worry about speed marching two miles, three miles, six miles and nine miles wearing a full fighting order and your rifle at a pace of one mile every ten minutes! Worry about running 30 miles over Dartmoor wearing all your kit in eight hours. Worry about doing the assault course in five minutes. Worry about doing the Tarzan course in the same time then worry about doing the Tarzan/Assault course in ten minutes! As it is you will be slowly brought up to the required standard by guys who know how far to push a recruit, when to let him rest, when he's got more in him etc, etc. But for pitys sake bin the questions about Poxy, Bloody Press Ups people please!!
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What all your kit! At the same time?Artist wrote:Worry about running 30 miles over Dartmoor wearing all your kit in eight hours.
Artist
Fark that!
Can you tell me the correct way to perform the perfect sit-up!
Dash, down, crawl......................
"When you men get home and face an anti-war protester, look him in the eyes and shake his hand. Then, wink at his girlfriend, because she knows she's dating a pussy."
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Artist, re your map reading bit.
I was asked where a certain growth of Bamboo is in our local forest today
Q"Do you know where it is?"
A"Yes
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Well how do I get there?
Walk
Where are we on this map then?..
I'm just about to show her when she pulled out a GPS, pressed the button 4 times and went to read out the Grid Ref, as I gave her the exact same figures from the map.
"You don't want to believe everything that tells you, we are actually 50 metres this way!"
Tolsd her to make sure her skills were up to it. PLUS she had written and drawn on the map in biro. Complete fail.
Next question, "Will my sandals be alright to get me there?"
Pointed to my Brasher boots. Nuff said.
I was asked where a certain growth of Bamboo is in our local forest today
Q"Do you know where it is?"
A"Yes
"Well how do I get there?
Walk
Where are we on this map then?..
I'm just about to show her when she pulled out a GPS, pressed the button 4 times and went to read out the Grid Ref, as I gave her the exact same figures from the map.
"You don't want to believe everything that tells you, we are actually 50 metres this way!"
Tolsd her to make sure her skills were up to it. PLUS she had written and drawn on the map in biro. Complete fail.Next question, "Will my sandals be alright to get me there?"
Pointed to my Brasher boots. Nuff said.
You should talk to somebody who gives a f**k.
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From the point of view of someone about to start training in a few weeks, threads like this are somewhat reassuring.
I mean, fitness isn't really a worry of mine. As far as I'm concerned I'm suitably fit, but increasing the intesity of training a little before I start won't hurt either. Also, pressups aren't exactly rocket surgery. What does make me slightly uneasy though is the other things, but when I think about they're quite trivial and I'll have to adapt to them anyway.
I've recently gotten myself an OS map of my surrounding area and a compass. Shall be teaching myself some simple things on the weekend I think. Should be fun.
5 weeks before I board my train to CTC. I'm looking well forward to getting down there and getting stuck in. Even if I am Welsh.
I mean, fitness isn't really a worry of mine. As far as I'm concerned I'm suitably fit, but increasing the intesity of training a little before I start won't hurt either. Also, pressups aren't exactly rocket surgery. What does make me slightly uneasy though is the other things, but when I think about they're quite trivial and I'll have to adapt to them anyway.
I've recently gotten myself an OS map of my surrounding area and a compass. Shall be teaching myself some simple things on the weekend I think. Should be fun.
5 weeks before I board my train to CTC. I'm looking well forward to getting down there and getting stuck in. Even if I am Welsh.
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Also, pressups aren't exactly rocket surgery. Even if I am Welsh.
El Prez,
At least a double oxymoron there?
Don't you fink?
Iv'e been interested in Rocket Surgery for some time now.
As you are a well respected virtual gynaecologist,
Do you have any"Tips" that may"Point"Me in the right direction?
Your's in mass destruction,
Von Braun.
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JC
Most injuries that get guys put into Hunter troop or Back trooped occur when Pride takes precedence over Common Dog. You may pull a muscle on say a thursday, your first IA should be to inform a member of the training team and see the Doc. Then you have the weekend to nurse it better. But no this hardly ever happens.
Mainly because you have formed a bond with the blokes in your troop and so you say nought. Come the Monday and Lo and Behold during a bit of phizz the pulled muscle becomes a torn muscle or even worse a torn ligament.
We all did it when in training. I did my Nine Miler a fortnight after everyone else because I had knackered the ligaments on the inside of my left leg during ropeing drills up at the Dewerstone on Dartmoor. I passed out with the Troop but could not join my first Unit until I had cracked the Nine Miler. As it was some of the training team ran with me and knew I was in a lot of pain but they encouraged me from start to finish. I passed by the skin of my teeth and was sent straight to the Sickbay where they decided it would be for the best to send me to RNH Stonehouse, Plymouth. Was in for two weeks, back to CTC to collect my kit and then back to Plymouth but this time to Seaton barracks where I joined 40CDORM.
The point I'm trying to get across is if I had owned up to the initial injury right from the start I would not have had to go though the worry and the pain. I would have been allowed a couple of days to get myself in order. And joined 40 a month earlier than I did. Little things can become very large things if you ignore them.
Artist
Most injuries that get guys put into Hunter troop or Back trooped occur when Pride takes precedence over Common Dog. You may pull a muscle on say a thursday, your first IA should be to inform a member of the training team and see the Doc. Then you have the weekend to nurse it better. But no this hardly ever happens.
Mainly because you have formed a bond with the blokes in your troop and so you say nought. Come the Monday and Lo and Behold during a bit of phizz the pulled muscle becomes a torn muscle or even worse a torn ligament.
We all did it when in training. I did my Nine Miler a fortnight after everyone else because I had knackered the ligaments on the inside of my left leg during ropeing drills up at the Dewerstone on Dartmoor. I passed out with the Troop but could not join my first Unit until I had cracked the Nine Miler. As it was some of the training team ran with me and knew I was in a lot of pain but they encouraged me from start to finish. I passed by the skin of my teeth and was sent straight to the Sickbay where they decided it would be for the best to send me to RNH Stonehouse, Plymouth. Was in for two weeks, back to CTC to collect my kit and then back to Plymouth but this time to Seaton barracks where I joined 40CDORM.
The point I'm trying to get across is if I had owned up to the initial injury right from the start I would not have had to go though the worry and the pain. I would have been allowed a couple of days to get myself in order. And joined 40 a month earlier than I did. Little things can become very large things if you ignore them.
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cheers for a interesting read and providing a insight in to what i should be concentrating on to get me through the training should i ever have the good fortune to get in.
It must be worrying for ex boot necks seeing some of the shocking questions posted on here by people who want to follow in there footsteps
It must be worrying for ex boot necks seeing some of the shocking questions posted on here by people who want to follow in there footsteps
