Ok I’ll apologise in advice if this is a long post.
I currently 18 and have quit collage as my course was not as I expected and I have totally had to re-evaluate what I will do with my life.
I joined the Territorial Army in August of last year and have only got my 2 weeks left to do however, I have done some research and since being of a small age I have wanted to become involved with the police/fire service or army and have only now to follow my heart, not my head.
I’m currently looking at the RAF, Navy and Army and can not decide in which I would get more enjoyment from. I will joining 1 of these establishments hopefully and wondered which I would like better. I would just like for people serving with any of these to post there opinions of there establishment.
I understand this is like asking how long a piece of string is so ill provide some of my enjoyment, characteristics and future plans I have after leaving the military.
I’m an out going, sociable person who is adventurous and feels no task is impossible without first trying. I try my hardest in all aspects of my life. I feel at ease being in command of a situation and believe I can make good decisions on behalf of those around me. I enjoy being part of a team network. I would like to be involved in a lot of action such as spending days in a field acting as a part of a team to secure a building etc. I want each day to be testing and not to take on a civilian job within the military such as an engineer onboard a ship. I would like to take pride in my work. I would like to be posted for months around the world and to visit cultures and places I would not have the chance to visit in civillain life. Above all I want to protect citizens of other countries from troubles and persecution. The reason I want to become a policeman after the military is to ensure the people around where I work are safe and feel protected. The reason I have for joining the military so people across the world can have the same chances or happiness and freedom the UK experience.
I am interested in when leaving what ever I choose to become a police man and it was suggested I become a RMP but I have not information and what this job would involve.
Wow, cant believe that was all just typed I can appreciate the above post may not be perfect but my heads a bit messed up and I felt writing this all out would help.
For those who read this and give information, advice thanks for taking the time to do so.
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Here you go mate. I've loads of mates in the Navy in Scotland so if you want I can arrange for somebody to talk to you face to face.
http://www.royal-navy.mod.uk/static/pages/2982.html
http://www.royal-navy.mod.uk/static/pages/2982.html
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I've got a mate who's a Joss with the MPM. He stays in Stirling. As long as you can either get over to Faslane or down to Stirling for a chat I'm sure he'd be willing. I know you're maybe going to think that these are all submariners and you are maybe thinking of becoming a skimmer or Wafu but a lot of them have served on surface vessels too. At least it would give you an idea?
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Ive just read this thread, as Im bored in work and it gets me away from thoughts of how to slot my boss and get away with it. 
Anyway only comment Id like to make is from my experience its all well and good joining any of the forces with romantic ideals of saving/protecting the world and its not so free population, but when the shi-ites hit the fan the only people you will come to realise worth protecting are your oppos next to you and yourself.
As for civie jobs in the Military, I think alot of the military is become civilianised, except jobs where you get to get up close and personal with someone trying to kill you. Thats a broad brush to label every role but if you want to do the military thing then join a teeth arm, if you want a skill then join a trade but then go airborne or commando forces.
There are exceptions, and some people on here are evidence of that. The other thing you will come to realise is that military life is hurry up and wait, you will spend 80% of your time bored shitless, 10% on leave 5% sick and 5% at the sharp end scaring the fuzzy wuzzies!
You wont save the world joining the forces, and wont spend days in a field securing a builiding. Alot of fields dont have buildings for a start
Anyway you seem a level headed fella, and looking at all of the options is the best way for yourself to work out what you want. If I had my time again then Id do what I did, avoid women as they are the real enemy
and never have tattoos.
Good luck bud
Anyway only comment Id like to make is from my experience its all well and good joining any of the forces with romantic ideals of saving/protecting the world and its not so free population, but when the shi-ites hit the fan the only people you will come to realise worth protecting are your oppos next to you and yourself.
As for civie jobs in the Military, I think alot of the military is become civilianised, except jobs where you get to get up close and personal with someone trying to kill you. Thats a broad brush to label every role but if you want to do the military thing then join a teeth arm, if you want a skill then join a trade but then go airborne or commando forces.
There are exceptions, and some people on here are evidence of that. The other thing you will come to realise is that military life is hurry up and wait, you will spend 80% of your time bored shitless, 10% on leave 5% sick and 5% at the sharp end scaring the fuzzy wuzzies!
You wont save the world joining the forces, and wont spend days in a field securing a builiding. Alot of fields dont have buildings for a start
Anyway you seem a level headed fella, and looking at all of the options is the best way for yourself to work out what you want. If I had my time again then Id do what I did, avoid women as they are the real enemy
and never have tattoos.Good luck bud
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Clean' RAFP & RMP aren't civvy roles within the military,this a common mistake and is due their role not being publicised as some others. I posted the following some time ago on the RAF forum page here, this may help you understand what we do and hopefaully give you an idea of if its for you! Please ignore the parts where it refers to named persons as it was postedin response to twonks comments!
Hope it helps!
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Macster, had a peep at the link and don't have any knowledge of the incidents you refer to nor or the outcome. Although after almost 17 yrs in the trade I do believe that I'm Q'd to comment on the posts in general. The attitude put across by yourself and Rob is not typical of the air force in general and the majority of RAFP can and do socialise outwith their trade (They would not be able to do this if they were all " tossers") Like any trade we have our share of muppets and they tend to be sorted pretty quickly! Yes bad eggs will always exist, however they tend to be the exception rather than the norm. As far as P&SS go I personally have never served with them other than on Traffic in RAFG, I would rather not comment on their particular idea of dress sense as it would appear that most of themseem to have a charge card for the Thrift Shop but they are slowly getting better and any day now are in danger of losing their "Men in Cheap Suits" callsign. As far as the scope of RAFP duties go the scope is only limited at the bottom of the rank structure with the majority of duties being GPD ( thanks to Core Policing Policy, RAFP will no longer man COE posts, as a rule this will be carried out by MPGS) this will allow RAFP to concentrate on the more traditional copper's role which they have always carried out in addition to any other tasks. A/Cpls can specialise in various roles such as Air Transport Security, Service Police Search Operator, Dog Handler ( PAT, SPD ) and routinely carry out Close Protection duties in every theatre that we as a nation have an interest. Once promoted to sub Cpl the opportunities to specialise become greater and areas such as Counter Intelligence, Special Investigation, Computer Security, SOCO, Forensic Analyst, Sig Int, Hum Int, Source Handler, Specialist Surveillance Operator, Explosive Search and Drugs Search Dog Handler and Home Office Defensive Tactics Instr ( who in the very near future will take over the Baton & Cuff training of all RMP due to them not complying with HO directives!). There are other duties and roles which RAFP carry out that aren't really open for discussion on this forum. To reply to Goldies comments I have worked with and trained alongside RMP many times and have found in the main the opposite to be true as the average RAFP subby has at least 10-12 yrs service and has a much greater wealth of experience than an RMP Sgt who in all probability has much less time in. He may be pleased to note that for several years now the majority of Force Cdrs & VIPAR's now specifically request RAFP CP cover in preference to RMP. Whilst OOA the RMP tend to remain in a GPD and training ( Local / Indigenous Police Force ) role, tasks such as High Risk Convoy Escort and Patrolling are routinely carried out TPW (Tactical Police Wing) whose role is so varied I won't even begin to start listing them here suffice to say they are an extremely well trained highly professional and well motivated unit who to date have accomplished successfully every task set them and have been involved in numerous actions where they have performed with valour and distinction ( a fact now recognised by MOD as several members of the unit have been decorated for actions above and beyond!)
Talking of medals you would only have to glance at the ribbons of some of those serving to be left in no doubt as to their experience, commitment and dedication! As a rule RMP only tend to work along side their own national element whereas RAFP routinely serve on IMP duties where they are always at the forefront. As a sub Cpl I personally was employed as a Shift Cdr in a Former Yugoslavian country and had under my control upto 12 policemen and women from 11 countries some of whom were WO2 and WO1 equivelant ( OR9 ). This was at the direction of a Scandinavian Provost Marshal! and is not uncommon. As for comments which have posted of late about the role of the RAF Regt. They have never carried out Close Protection duties and in all likelyhood never will. During Op Telic a certain camp which housed only SF personnel was initially protected by the rocks however at the request of the SF Cdr they were replaced by TPW who have since been requested by that same unit to carry out that and similar tasks in support of them! Furthermore the RAFP Intelligence & Security Sqn has all but taken over the role previously carried out by 3 Sqn RAF Regt in N.I. I 'm not knocking the gunners as they are very good at what they do and I count many of them as good friends and have drank in their bars just as they have drank in mine! The infamous rivalry between rocks and coppers mainly exists in the meomories of those long out of the service and those of other trades who know no better, ther will always be a healthy rivalry but thats all it is as the majority of both trades who have worked in close proximity respect what the other is capable of those who don't tend to be speaking from position of little or no experience. Many RAFP have worked alongside and with SF of several nations and have always been complemented on their professionalism and can do attitude! The RAFP provide more manpower to SD than any other trade in the RAF. I know I've gone on a bit but it pisses me off when people slag us off from an ill informed position, another thing to think about is that the majority of people who do bare a grudge against us must have been doing something to come to our attention!
Those that who have done no wrong have nothing to fear from the RAF Police!!!!!!
Thanks for bearing with me ! H_N
Sorry to those who've readall this before I'd forgotten how long it was!
Hope it helps!
H_N
Macster, had a peep at the link and don't have any knowledge of the incidents you refer to nor or the outcome. Although after almost 17 yrs in the trade I do believe that I'm Q'd to comment on the posts in general. The attitude put across by yourself and Rob is not typical of the air force in general and the majority of RAFP can and do socialise outwith their trade (They would not be able to do this if they were all " tossers") Like any trade we have our share of muppets and they tend to be sorted pretty quickly! Yes bad eggs will always exist, however they tend to be the exception rather than the norm. As far as P&SS go I personally have never served with them other than on Traffic in RAFG, I would rather not comment on their particular idea of dress sense as it would appear that most of themseem to have a charge card for the Thrift Shop but they are slowly getting better and any day now are in danger of losing their "Men in Cheap Suits" callsign. As far as the scope of RAFP duties go the scope is only limited at the bottom of the rank structure with the majority of duties being GPD ( thanks to Core Policing Policy, RAFP will no longer man COE posts, as a rule this will be carried out by MPGS) this will allow RAFP to concentrate on the more traditional copper's role which they have always carried out in addition to any other tasks. A/Cpls can specialise in various roles such as Air Transport Security, Service Police Search Operator, Dog Handler ( PAT, SPD ) and routinely carry out Close Protection duties in every theatre that we as a nation have an interest. Once promoted to sub Cpl the opportunities to specialise become greater and areas such as Counter Intelligence, Special Investigation, Computer Security, SOCO, Forensic Analyst, Sig Int, Hum Int, Source Handler, Specialist Surveillance Operator, Explosive Search and Drugs Search Dog Handler and Home Office Defensive Tactics Instr ( who in the very near future will take over the Baton & Cuff training of all RMP due to them not complying with HO directives!). There are other duties and roles which RAFP carry out that aren't really open for discussion on this forum. To reply to Goldies comments I have worked with and trained alongside RMP many times and have found in the main the opposite to be true as the average RAFP subby has at least 10-12 yrs service and has a much greater wealth of experience than an RMP Sgt who in all probability has much less time in. He may be pleased to note that for several years now the majority of Force Cdrs & VIPAR's now specifically request RAFP CP cover in preference to RMP. Whilst OOA the RMP tend to remain in a GPD and training ( Local / Indigenous Police Force ) role, tasks such as High Risk Convoy Escort and Patrolling are routinely carried out TPW (Tactical Police Wing) whose role is so varied I won't even begin to start listing them here suffice to say they are an extremely well trained highly professional and well motivated unit who to date have accomplished successfully every task set them and have been involved in numerous actions where they have performed with valour and distinction ( a fact now recognised by MOD as several members of the unit have been decorated for actions above and beyond!)
Talking of medals you would only have to glance at the ribbons of some of those serving to be left in no doubt as to their experience, commitment and dedication! As a rule RMP only tend to work along side their own national element whereas RAFP routinely serve on IMP duties where they are always at the forefront. As a sub Cpl I personally was employed as a Shift Cdr in a Former Yugoslavian country and had under my control upto 12 policemen and women from 11 countries some of whom were WO2 and WO1 equivelant ( OR9 ). This was at the direction of a Scandinavian Provost Marshal! and is not uncommon. As for comments which have posted of late about the role of the RAF Regt. They have never carried out Close Protection duties and in all likelyhood never will. During Op Telic a certain camp which housed only SF personnel was initially protected by the rocks however at the request of the SF Cdr they were replaced by TPW who have since been requested by that same unit to carry out that and similar tasks in support of them! Furthermore the RAFP Intelligence & Security Sqn has all but taken over the role previously carried out by 3 Sqn RAF Regt in N.I. I 'm not knocking the gunners as they are very good at what they do and I count many of them as good friends and have drank in their bars just as they have drank in mine! The infamous rivalry between rocks and coppers mainly exists in the meomories of those long out of the service and those of other trades who know no better, ther will always be a healthy rivalry but thats all it is as the majority of both trades who have worked in close proximity respect what the other is capable of those who don't tend to be speaking from position of little or no experience. Many RAFP have worked alongside and with SF of several nations and have always been complemented on their professionalism and can do attitude! The RAFP provide more manpower to SD than any other trade in the RAF. I know I've gone on a bit but it pisses me off when people slag us off from an ill informed position, another thing to think about is that the majority of people who do bare a grudge against us must have been doing something to come to our attention!
Those that who have done no wrong have nothing to fear from the RAF Police!!!!!!
Thanks for bearing with me ! H_N
Sorry to those who've readall this before I'd forgotten how long it was!
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You can RAM that idea Doc!
Bunch of lying twofaced truth embroidering sneering shiny arsed bounty taking homowhatsit herbaltea drinking goat fiddling anorak wearing reacharounds!
I don't have any particular views on the subject but its not for me personally!
Bunch of lying twofaced truth embroidering sneering shiny arsed bounty taking homowhatsit herbaltea drinking goat fiddling anorak wearing reacharounds!
I don't have any particular views on the subject but its not for me personally!
"When you men get home and face an anti-war protester, look him in the eyes and shake his hand. Then, wink at his girlfriend, because she knows she's dating a pussy."
