So, what do you all think about Britain moving troops...

Gunn · Post by **Gunn** » Fri 29 Oct, 2004 12:21 am

I agree cliodna, the British deaths/casualties are going to increase, its fact. I dont like it, im extremely pissed off with the government! Im sorry Flo but your husband joined the RM and knows what he is letting himself in for, when you married him you knew this too. My heart really goes out to you but you cant run away from the facts. I hope like ex-URNU said he comes home safe and sound but think about the family of the guys that will die because of this joke of a government

im ashamed to call myself british sometimes.

GARRYOWEN · Post by **GARRYOWEN** » Fri 29 Oct, 2004 2:25 pm

Edge: thin end of the!

sneaky beaky · Post by **sneaky beaky** » Fri 29 Oct, 2004 6:13 pm

I really don't know what the big deal is, in moving troops around in Iraq.
The Brits. are in Iraq. If they are needed further north, then that's where they should go. It is a military decision - NOT a political one. If the Yanks need help up north then we should give it without the interference of politicians. They made the decision to go into Iraq. How the "war" is fought is down to the commanders on the ground.
The Black Watch will, very likely, do far better than the Yanks have done. We should be very proud of this.
I don't seem to remember in the second World War asking the Yanks only to fight in one particular area. We were only too glad of their help back then.!!
Shut up you whingers!!!
Sneaky

Cliodna · Post by **Cliodna** » Fri 29 Oct, 2004 6:22 pm

sneaky beaky wrote: Shut up you wingers!!!

Well said Sneaky!!!

There is a job to be done, and if the Black Watch or whoever else are seen as the only ones capable of doing it, then so be it.
Take the Queens shilling and take all that goes with it.

Interesting to note that the ones doing the best impersonations of leaky taps(drip, drip) on this Forum, are the ones with no first hand experience of dealing with terrorists and/or being on a war footing

Chief_1975 · Post by **Chief_1975** » Sun 31 Oct, 2004 5:43 pm

Deviating slightly, there was a article in the Express today about how M16 believe Russian Special Forces moved Iraqs WMD into Syria a month before conflict began.
Now if that turns out to be true there's going to be a few red faces, a few happy ones as well!

Big_Z · Post by **Big_Z** » Wed 26 Jan, 2005 3:45 am

Awwww, do the brits have to leave their peaceful Iraqi city and enter a combat zone? Now you get a chance to prove how elite you are instead of handing out candy. The complete lack of respect you people show for the US is disgusting. You people trip over your own arrogance.

Boxingmad · Post by **Boxingmad** » Wed 26 Jan, 2005 11:23 am

Who are you?

El Prez · Post by **El Prez** » Wed 26 Jan, 2005 12:33 pm

Elmer, who do you think was helping train your lot in FIBUA when they first fell over their own feet in Baghdad?
The little guys with the funny American accents were British.
We are humbled to be in the presence of such military might and knowledge.

Our understated view of your teams capabilities was 'If it doesn't work, hit it harder' now refined to 'pass a bigger hammer'.

Fortunately, as we had to a long time ago, your team has learnt the lessons. Unfortunately it has been by hard experience, loss of good men and equipment. It's not something we as Brits crow ovewr. We did but we were and are working alongside you.

Think about it.

Big_Z · Post by **Big_Z** » Thu 27 Jan, 2005 2:07 am

Numbnuts wrote:Elmer, who do you think was helping train your lot in FIBUA when they first fell over their own feet in Baghdad?
The little guys with the funny American accents were British.
We are humbled to be in the presence of such military might and knowledge.

Our understated view of your teams capabilities was 'If it doesn't work, hit it harder' now refined to 'pass a bigger hammer'.

Fortunately, as we had to a long time ago, your team has learnt the lessons. Unfortunately it has been by hard experience, loss of good men and equipment. It's not something we as Brits crow ovewr. We did but we were and are working alongside you.

Think about it.

Think about why your soldiers are never put in hostile cities. But im sure they trained the Americans! A source for your FIBUA comment would be great.

flo · Post by **flo** » Thu 27 Jan, 2005 11:59 am

Gunn wrote:
Im sorry Flo but your husband joined the RM and knows what he is letting himself in for, when you married him you knew this too. My heart really goes out to you but you cant run away from the facts.

Gunn i KNOW what i married into, and i KNOW he is doing a job, and i know what the jobs entails being ex forces myself, but the FACT is i stand side by side with my hubby and i always will. I agree with what cliodna says about the body bags instead of gaffa tape, but do we really have to have a discussion about body bags rammed down our throats especially at such a sensitive time. Im proud of my husband and what he amoungst others have acomplished in helping Iraq become a democracy, but i dont sit and watch tv 24/7 because ive seen what it can do to wives and it messes with your head. Sorry fella and i dont mean this disrespectfully, when or if you join the forces you will see how it lies on the other side. When your hubby is preping to go into theatre you go into automotive mode, you smile but really your stomach is churning. You put a brave face on for the children and lie to them if you have to. How can any mother say to there children, 'Yes daddy is coming home'. when they dont know themselves. So please dont tell me that i knew what i was letting myself in for and that i am running away from FACTS, because i know, i live with the FACTS on a day to day basis.

El Prez · Post by **El Prez** » Thu 27 Jan, 2005 3:44 pm

The attached link is an interesting piece because it indicates what we know about fighting rag heads in Urban environments. It is not necessarily akin to NI.
Z, when it was suddenly realised that FIBUA was to be the order of the day, the US were lent some UK instructors who prepared US forces outbound to the theatre of ops. I can't find any links, but I think Flo's old man, 'Tommy Gunn' will confirm that.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/Northern_Irel ... 13,00.html

Sol Bro · Post by **Sol Bro** » Thu 27 Jan, 2005 10:18 pm

Think about why your soldiers are never put in hostile cities. But im sure they trained the Americans! A source for your FIBUA comment would be great.[/quote]

Maybe our cities werent as hostile because we did not antagonise the local population as much as the americans did. Remember kiddy all your elite forces are modelled on ours. Rangers were based on Commandoes, Delta on the SAS, Navy Seals on SBS etc :theres a reason for that.

Grey_Fox · Post by **Grey_Fox** » Sun 30 Jan, 2005 9:30 pm

Sol Bro wrote:Think about why your soldiers are never put in hostile cities. But im sure they trained the Americans! A source for your FIBUA comment would be great.

Maybe our cities werent as hostile because we did not antagonise the local population as much as the americans did. Remember kiddy all your elite forces are modelled on ours. Rangers were based on Commandoes, Delta on the SAS, Navy Seals on SBS etc :theres a reason for that.[/quote]

Oh i see so you wanna bring up history huh? Well if thats the case we saved your asses in both world wars, also don't forget you limeys would be speaking German had we not came to your aid. You Brits have an ego way over your heads.

boothgraeme · Post by **boothgraeme** » Sun 30 Jan, 2005 10:16 pm

Grey_Fox wrote:Oh i see so you wanna bring up history huh? Well if thats the case we saved your asses in both world wars, also don't forget you limeys would be speaking German had we not came to your aid. You Brits have an ego way over your heads.

Which Hollywood film did you get that from?

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