Iraq: How bad can things get?

[Greg S]

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/programmes/f ... 675538.stm

Hmmm.....100,000 rounds fired by the British army last month and Blair admits Iraq is a 'war zone' again........

NO SH*T!!!!!!

[MrMitty]

When did it stop being a warzone??

How do they clasify when the war is over and the peace has begun, that place was a huge cock up. No disrespect to the forces out there meant.

M

[Greg S]

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/3752517.stm

"Bin Laden is a good guy. Everyone likes him in the Muslim world, there is nothing wrong with the man and his beliefs"

Abu Hamza


I'm shocked how this guy gets away with collecting £1056 on benefit a WEEK when squaddies are out there getting that a month. F**king disgusting.........they should deport the c__t to the USA.

http://dailyablution.blogs.com/the_dail ... eikhs.html

[flo]

My hubby was out in the gulf in 91 and again on Op Telic 1, in 4 weeks he returns for a third stint this time for 7 months on Op Telic 5, but his time he says he is more wary of being out there than the last two times. And it takes a big man to admit that. Here we have Blair travelling on a high speed train to promote its efficiency when there is a British National being held hostage under threat of execution - Im glad to see he has got his prioritys right.

[MrMitty]

Flo

If an experienced commando like your husband is wary then God help the civilians out there.

Tony will be drinking wine while the soldiers fight the wars - none of his cronies would be much better at the job and the other parties are looking pretty un-electable so I guess he will be at the top for a while

My thoughts are with you and your kids - it must be a very worrying time for you all but my pound says your husband can look after himself okay and he is fighting alongside the best.

M

[snyder]

I think there is a real chance that Iraq will totally unravel and that the U.S. and Britain will be chased out of there. Or perhaps we will retreat to enclaves and do nothing other than protect our embassies in Baghdad and occupy the oil fields. Maybe this is what Bush had in mind all along.

[Tab]

Can we afford to leave there with our tail between our legs, if we do I think that we shall get far more trouble in the long run than if we stay and tough it out.

[snyder]

Can we afford to leave there with our tail between our legs, if we do I think that we shall get far more trouble in the long run than if we stay and tough it out.

This is going to wind up being the question of the hour very soon. The U.S. and Britain will be looking for a face-saving exit.

[flo]

Not sure if its true or not , but the women are carrying the arms for the men and under muslem law they cannot be searched. And they say religion is meant to unite people. I dont think we should leave, it would be an insult to the thousands of lifes lost through terrorism.

[BBC]

Not sure if its true or not , but the women are carrying the arms for the men and under muslem law they cannot be searched. And they say religion is meant to unite people. I dont think we should leave, it would be an insult to the thousands of lifes lost through terrorism.

Just as with our laws that apply, females can't be searched by males.
They can be detained until a female is available to search her.

As to religion uniting, I’m about to become very unpopular here, but the Koran in no way shape or form teaches these things that we associate with Islam. It is not a religion of hate or female suppression. Men have interpreted it to these points.

I will be happy to discuss this in a PM situation with anyone, however I’m unwilling to enter into a slagging match here on the topic. Oh and before I’m challenged to why I believe this, I have a BA Hon in Theology with Judaism and Islam a Comparative Study being the title of my finals thesis.

[martin1001]

BBC is right!

The Koran is open to misinterpretation. Unlike in the Christian world, where we all have the right to read and to interpret the bible, muslims and muslimas have to look up to an mam for religious guidance and leadership. They aren´t supposed to interpret the Koran themselves opening themselves for leaders who are not so just!

I think I got that pretty right.

[Sully]

I would hazard a guess that more kids have been killed by US forces in Iraq since April last year than were killed at Beslan. It's perhaps a bit different when missiles and bombs are loosed off into residential areas though - more remote and sanitised. If anybody can disabuse me of this impression then please do. There's a book out somewhere about an RAF pilot who resigned his commission in 1922 because he refused to mustard gas civilian targets in, you guessed it, Iraqi Kurdistan.

I suppose the point is that some people might feel pushed into the arms of these lunatics. The 'black widows' of Chechnya are a case in point. If my family was wiped out, I'd be looking for someone to pay for it. It doesn't make it right, but there you go. At some point the chickens come home to roost.

PS sorry to hear the news that Cat Stevens has been caught up in the War on Terror - I always thought he had a criminal record or two. How ridiculous is the US administration becoming?

[Hyperlithe]

I understood that Cat Stevens (Whatever his name is now) was against all forms of violence and had spoken out against terrorist attacks by muslim extremists, such as September 11th? What was the reason given for refusing him entrance to the US?

[martin1001]

PErhaps he is just being victimised as he converted to Islam 30 odd years ago - or someone in the government dislikes his music!!!