Sudan Crisis

[Rubber Duck]

I recently read in the paper that Tony Blair has ruled out sending troops to the Sudan to prevent the catastrophe that's happening there. This was despite advice that 5000 troops could be spared if necessary.

The UN are procrastinating as usual, the most they will probably do is declare the Sudanese govt acted improperly, but after the disaster has happened and then perhaps slap some lame sanctions on them.

I am of the strong opinion that troops should be rushed there to sort out those janjaweed dickheads immediately. To not do so is completely negligent because Britain, as a relatively prosperous country should prevent this completely man-made disaster because it has the power to do so. Such an intervention is completely justifiable on humanitarian grounds because the Sudanese govt are not looking after the rights of their own people, which is an allowed reason for intervention in the UN charter. Even if it wasn't the UN wouldn't do anything about it anyway.

Britain has a responsibility to help but very few people seem to care. I can't believe such a vast mobilisation was put into action for Iraq while nothing is being done about this. Probably because Britain has no interests in the area, but I believe they have an obligation.

Anyone agree?

[Whitey]

Maybe God got pissed at those people Rubber Duck and is punishing them?
Read the old testement. Maybe they should fight back, wait they didn't have the right to bear arms did they?
Well they left themselves open for that one. 5000 troops in Sudan? Haven't you spent enough money as we are doing on failed help efforts on people who gave up on themselves centuries ago?
Somalia, the Balkans, Vietnam ect...
Leave them to their self determination. Plus like I said, maybe God is at work, if we get involved he might just get after us too.

[El Prez]

RD, T. B. Liar has another fireman's strike just over his event horizon. Prior to an election his little winkie is more concerned about his appearance to the British electorate than some Somali goatherder.
His use AGAIN of our overstretched and demoralised Services to cover his ass is guaranteed to drive more out of a job they enjoy into civvy street.

[snyder]

If someone wants the West to sort it out in Somalia they know exactly what the need to do: Discover oil there. Concern for human rights will follow. Until then, I vote to stay the hell away.

[ELP]

Sudan? I'll pass. When the U.N. gets their head out of their ass and starts hiring mercs to clean up these type of Africa events, then maybe I'll support them.

-Step one- Hire a pro ( guys that have heard bullets wiz around there heads in many previous operations and know their job cold ) Merc company to go in with a few hundred pros and put so much fear into the baddys running around that they decide to not hang around as baddys anymore. 20, 30, 40, etc dead baddys at the hands of mercs here and there tends to put an end to bad guy operations.

-After the baddys are busted up like that, then you deploy peacekeepers and aid workers. The contract mercs keep an outer buffer and seak out and kill any bad guy ops. Rinse and repeat. Works real well. To bad the morons in the U.N. are too stupid to realize this.

[snyder]

By the way, it doesn't bother me in the least that Gulf War I was for oil. If you can't fight a war to put cheap gas into The Big Dog, then when can you ever fight a war, for chrissakes? Gulf War II was a different matter. The oil was flowing, so we didn't need to go there for oil. We know it wasn't for WMD, and we know that the United States never has, does not and never will fight a war for the sake of human rights so the "freedom" of the Iraqis as a justification should be seen as an I.Q. test for the recipient of that particular whopper. So, what did we do it for?

• The Israelis have us wrapped around their (middle) finger?
• The Saudis are either running out of oil or are about to implode so we figured we better have our thumb physically on the artery?
• The Russians are collapsing as we speak. The Europeans have disarmed themselves and withdrawn to await the arrival of the African and Turkish hordes. The Arabs haven't been able to rule themselves for more than 600 years. Power fills a vacuum and if we don't go in then it will be the Chinese or the Indians and if we think oil costs a lot now just wait?
• "That bastard tried to kill my daddy?"
• The Book of Revelations says the world is about to end anyway and Nancy Reagan's astrologer told me that now's as good a time as any?
• "The Arabs blew up the World Trade Center so let's go kick ass and we don't really care whose ass because they all look the same in those white robes anyway?"
• Dick is building a second vacation home in Wyoming and his previous Hallburton bonuses wouldn't cover it?

[Ardennes44]

Concerning the ongoing situation, isn’t it odd that CAIR, “America’s premier Muslim Civil Rights Group”, will say nothing in defense of non-violent Muslims who are being systematically “cleansed” by militant Islamists? CAIR claims to condemn terror…except when it comes to Wahhabi Islamists terror-murdering in the name of “Allah”.

[chrisfow]

Somalia, the Balkans, Vietnam ect...

Surely quoting these as the UK "spending money on failed help efforts" is a bit dangerous, since Somalia and Vietnam were US muck ups and seeing as the Balkans is (in the end) a success story?

I think that troops should be sent to Sudan now, while they can still do good, and yes I do think they should be British troops. Even under the incredably stupid new defence cuts, the Joint Chiefs reacon we can handle "two to three peacekeeping ops and one major operation". The Balkans is one and Sudan can be the other, Afghanistan doesn;t even figure nemore since UK troops there number less than 200.

But of course El Prez is right. Hundreds of thousands of people are displaced out there with so many going through hell, and our troops can make a real difference to their lives and futures. But they can also make a real difference back home fighting fires and saving the Dear Leader's ass, so guess which one they will be tasked with?

[Rubber Duck]

If no countries troops will be sent in then I don't think ELPs idea of the UN sending in mercenarys is a bad one.