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has the RM ever used this rifle in operations?...read the SAS use it..is it any good?
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ss wrote:has the RM ever used this rifle in operations?...read the SAS use it..is it any good?
SS: If you're talking about the Canadian C7, it's really just an M16 with a few (35) improvements. The most significant one is the manual forward assist due to the relative weakness of the return spring. So, given that many RMs and SAS will have used the M16, there is really very little difference. My two least favourite things about the C7 is the optic sight (crap, in my own humble opinion) and the tendency for the waepon to become loose (too much "play") between the upper and lower receiver. But that's just me.

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thanks for the info...didnt know it was just a modified M16..interesting
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http://world.guns.ru/assault/as44-e.htm

The C7 rifle is a slightly modified copy of the Colt M16A2 assault rifle, licence-built by Diemaco company of Canada.
The C7 rifle, along with C7A1 flat-top, scoped rifle and C8 carbine, is adopted by Canadian Forces, and is in service since 1984. It is also adopted by Danish and Netherlands armed forces.
http://www.diemaco.com/
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I heard from a few friends in 3 Princess Patricia's Canadian Light Infantry that the weapon seems to jam quite a bit less than the US M16. But nothing compared to the HK G36, which, I hear, is slated for RM use by 2010. Good thing, they claim it can be drug through the sand, and then fire 30 000 rounds without jamming OR needing a cleaning.

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anglo-saxon wrote: If you're talking about the Canadian C7, it's really just an M16 with a few (35) improvements. The most significant one is the manual forward assist due to the relative weakness of the return spring.
The M16-A1 & -A2 also had manual forward assist. :yeah:
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Well, swallow me n@b! Would you look at that!

What slack b@$!@&d left the ejection port cover open?
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as, while the issue C7 comes with Optical there are obviously lots of 'gootchi' attachments for it. Iron sights are quite easy to aquire I learned to shoot with those and never went over to the OS, the new ones have cool collapsable butts and you can get them red dot sights liek the M4. For some reason I can't figure out they made the sling cadpat. Overall the C7 is an OK rifle based upon a far older design. But then again the AK is the most successful design in the world and its based of technology from the 40s. I want to play with the new rifle the americans are coming out with she's a real beauty, make you think your a stormtrooper with guns like those.

On second thought to quote mr Kalishinkov himself "I wish I had invented a lawnmower instead." Perhaps lawnmowers are the way to go not "lasers."
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Ben: Yes I typically take the optic off and mount an iron sight. I've never been keen on the optic sight we use. As for that patrol sling, most of ours are broken. The wee plastic gromet thingy is not the most robust peice eof kit I've ever seen. But then, I've never been keen on slings on rifles either, except in urban ops.

I agree, that overall the C7 is not a bad peice of kit. I suppose I just still prefer the SLR. One interesting point to note is that since my unit received the C7 in the early 90's, I have NEVER had a stoppage with this rifle. I've had sights, hand guards, and mags wobble around and fall off, but never had a sta\oppage. I guess that says something.
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