Pay back time

[porty3]

From WW1/2 To present day we as Service men have served our Country proud, worked hard and taken no Shit. What do the readers of this web site think that the next pay rise for all Service men will be???????

[porty3]

From 1972-96 I've had many hats but only one GREEN BERET.

[ratso]

We now find that there are fewer married quaters due to sell off's, yet try finding even a seargent who could afford a house in Exmouth on his salary alone. A decent pay rise is well over due. Then danger pay is something which should be reviewed as should the policy on life cover for WAR they need to be looked after as do their families.

The armed forces we have been told have gone through many changes though non which really change the fundamental flaws, Pay, Conditions, Rank Structure and Welfare.

The armed forces needs a good shake up by being stripped of the we are too good to be changed idealism. If we need the full officer structure at all these days I would be surprised. The division of them and us needs to change to make things work better.

BUT most of all pay them for the job they do!!!!!

[K24io]

I doubt they'll be any pay rise for another year.
I reckon it will be below 5%. Last one as 3.2% I think.

I would wish for a pay rise of around £2000 on the basic Private/Marine/rate.

Thats sounds a lot but police get £18k during training, perhaps they need to learm more than some personnel but many trades are undervalued.

Perhaps there should be a shift to a more task orientated pay structure.
Why sohuld a stores clerk get paid the same as someone risking their life in the front line or doing a job requiring technical skills that would be beter rewarded with private.

I agree the Them and Us system is outdated and doesn't fit in with the 'socialist' outlook.

[North Sea Tigress]

They did try to address the issue of pay for skills with the Pay 2000 review. Unfortunately, it only resulteds in two levels. I don't know the full details though.

[Guest]

whats the daily rate for a 1st class Marine ?? divide by 24 (hrs) and i`ll bet its less than the national minimum wage.

[Andy O'Pray]

During the Radfan,1964. The East Anglians took a bit of a walloping losing several men. A reporter asked a private what he thought his mate had died for. Six pounds, six shillings a week replied the soldier.

It seems that things have not changed much.

Aye - Andy.

[porty3]

Trust is gained by HONESTY

[Sisyphus]

What????????????????????????

[Sticky Blue]

They did try to address the issue of pay for skills with the Pay 2000 review. Unfortunately, it only resulteds in two levels. I don't know the full details though.

You wouldn't want to know!! A complete balls up... yet again.

It worked out that some were on higher rate some on lower. The Corps RSM was on the lower rate at level... whatever, lets say 3 and a newly promoted WO1 went straight in on a pay level higher then the Corps RSM. He was being paid more than the senior WO1 in the Corps. I couls tell of others but there are too many!!

[may18]

Hmm an opinion from a "civvie"

If theres one thing the typical english civvie is proud of it isnt our crumbling health service, our awfull transport and education system or our awful sports team.

Its our armed forces, everytime they are in action they seem to excel. We are painfully aware that they do a job not many of us would even think of doing.

The police got a very good pay deal (around 18k per year i think?) on the condition they dont strike. The armed forces dont have that option.

So i would at least bring the pay of a new recruit to 18k

BTW i see a lot of papers are campaigning for a parade when the troops come home..your thoughts?

[Guest]

Its a known fact that you will never get a decent payrise whilst you have a Labour Government . I recall one CPL when i was in Deal saying at a stand easy that any person in the military who voted Labour was stupid

[Sea Soldier]

Just to clarify a point made by "May18" ... the Police ("Home Office") Forces,that is do not have a "no strike" deal ... they are forbidden to go on strike by Law as enshrined in the Police Act 1919 ... see www.polfed.org

So,like Armed Forces personnel are entirely dependent on what the Government of the day sees fit to "award" them & unlike Service personnel & personnel of other "Emergency Services" are forbidden,again by Law from having a second job,but the point in the disparity of pay is well recognised ... incidentally the Police do not qualify for "Badge" pay either,no matter what specialist skills they hold.

[gash-hand]

Well this subject is a subject close to my heart. My only reason for leaving the Corps was pay. Unfortunatly no matter how committed you may be there comes a time when 15K per year is not a sustainable income.

I for one can't see any change in the armed forces pay - a simple pay rise is not enough it needs totally overhauling - I did hope pay2000 would have done this, but yet again it turned out to be another half-arsed political gesture.

On a personal note I would like to see age related pay introduced for equilivent rank scales - many older members of the Corps bring 'soft' skills that are not easily recognised, add to this the fact that most older members would be more committed to remaining due to their increased world experience and the armed forces could have a good recruiting field of people - as it stands most people over the age of 25 won't bother as the pay is just too low to survive on. This may seem a little contentious but it is a well established practice in civvy street.

Just to nail my flag to the post - my pay scales would be:

marine 1st class = 20K
cpl = 25K
sgt = 28k
c/sgt = 31k
wo2 = 35k
wo1 = 35k

[Sully]

As a taxpayer I object to your generosity

I think age-related pay is constructive. I felt minted as a single inlier with no family to support - but there's no way I'd have been able to support a family on a mne's wages.

As a matter of market forces I don't think recruit pay needs overhauling. In the early days I would have done it for much less than I was getting but after a while when it becomes a job and commitments and responsibilities pile up I think financial incentives would have an effect.

Haven't heard from you for a while gash - I thought you might have re-engaged (not really though)