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The JaCkAl
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I'll mail bomb the webmaster. Or get one of my geeky work collegues to do something weird to their computers.
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Conflict of the Falklands > Task British Force unfolding 21 of March: The first displaced ships were those affected by the incident of the Georgias islands of the South Went so the Endurance weighed anchor on board to 8:30 hours of that day with twenty-two Marines of Stanley port, with the mission to evacuate to the Argentine workers of Leith Port. This assignment could not be carried out to it to have advanced him to the ship of the Argentina Navy ALTAR Bay Paradise. 30 of March: The Times newspaper of London announced the shipment of two nuclear submarines to the South Atlantic, without specifying its names, one from which would have left from Gibraltar the 25 of that month. Also one announced in that date the displacement of destroyer HMS Exeter from Bélice and, on the following day, the shipment of an auxiliary ship of the fleet. 31 of March: Before the Argentine disembarkation, the British government had decided the shipment of considerable a naval force: the orders were emitted to list aircraft carrier both and measures for the requisition of merchant boats were adopted. In such sense, transatlantic the Canberra and Uganda received the order to conclude their trips to be affected the operations. Also, several ferrys of line that covered their service in the English Channel, also were confiscated and immediately put in operation, since in their specifications of design military requirements had been contemplated technical. 3 of April: The British government had the shipment a great force of tasks. 4 of April: The government of the U.S.A. yields to the British government the air station located in the island of Wideawake and he facilitates ships to him for the transport of fuel and equipments until the Island Ascent. 5 of April: Part of the force of tasks weighed anchor of the port of Portsmouth, led by an aircraft carrier that was next to its taking apart. When arriving at Gibraltar, ships affected to the water naval exerciseses of the Mediterranean were added to the unfolding.
Conflict of the Falklands > Task British Force unfolding 21 of March: The first displaced ships were those affected by the incident of the Georgias islands of the South Went so the Endurance weighed anchor on board to 8:30 hours of that day with twenty-two Marines of Stanley port, with the mission to evacuate to the Argentine workers of Leith Port. This assignment could not be carried out to it to have advanced him to the ship of the Argentina Navy ALTAR Bay Paradise. 30 of March: The Times newspaper of London announced the shipment of two nuclear submarines to the South Atlantic, without specifying its names, one from which would have left from Gibraltar the 25 of that month. Also one announced in that date the displacement of destroyer HMS Exeter from Bélice and, on the following day, the shipment of an auxiliary ship of the fleet. 31 of March: Before the Argentine disembarkation, the British government had decided the shipment of considerable a naval force: the orders were emitted to list aircraft carrier both and measures for the requisition of merchant boats were adopted. In such sense, transatlantic the Canberra and Uganda received the order to conclude their trips to be affected the operations. Also, several ferrys of line that covered their service in the English Channel, also were confiscated and immediately put in operation, since in their specifications of design military requirements had been contemplated technical. 3 of April: The British government had the shipment a great force of tasks. 4 of April: The government of the U.S.A. yields to the British government the air station located in the island of Wideawake and he facilitates ships to him for the transport of fuel and equipments until the Island Ascent. 5 of April: Part of the force of tasks weighed anchor of the port of Portsmouth, led by an aircraft carrier that was next to its taking apart. When arriving at Gibraltar, ships affected to the water naval exerciseses of the Mediterranean were added to the unfolding.
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MALVINAS
hola!!! I am from Argentina...
First of all we never seid that we sunk the Invincible or the Hermes
But what we did, was to damaged the invicible...if I am wrong...Why did she take so long to appeared after the war??? 2 pilots (I knew both of them because my father is in the air force) saw and attack the carrier...
What did the british gov said??? First some say that they attacked the ATLANTIC CONVEYOR!!!hehe...then Woodwand in his book hi said they attacked the Arrow I think...
The Falkland war part of that site if really wrong...but please try to download the wallpapers...there are some of the falklands war really cool
If anyone wants to ask me something please mail me...
ps: Howardbliss don´t continue a stupid war...war is over (if you want it)
First of all we never seid that we sunk the Invincible or the Hermes
But what we did, was to damaged the invicible...if I am wrong...Why did she take so long to appeared after the war??? 2 pilots (I knew both of them because my father is in the air force) saw and attack the carrier...
What did the british gov said??? First some say that they attacked the ATLANTIC CONVEYOR!!!hehe...then Woodwand in his book hi said they attacked the Arrow I think...
The Falkland war part of that site if really wrong...but please try to download the wallpapers...there are some of the falklands war really cool
If anyone wants to ask me something please mail me...
ps: Howardbliss don´t continue a stupid war...war is over (if you want it)
" I want tell our thuth aswell as I want to hear yours "
MLV ARG
MLV ARG
Condor,
You are partly right. Two aircraft flew to the north to confuse the British task force. They were only spotted when they were about 12 miles out and appeared on the horizon.
They launched their exocets at the carrier - but the exocet guidance system detected a larger target (the Atlantic Conveyor) and locked onto that instead.
Talk about inaccurate numbers is irrelevant, really. Argentinian forces invaded (occupied, if you like) the Falklands (Malvinas). The British arrived and kicked them out. End of story. (almost)
20 years later we're still there. At some point, no doubt, politicians will agree to hand over the islands, introduce joint sovereignty or some other compromise. At the end of the day, Argentinian politicians keep the people 'wound up' about the islands on a nationalistic basis. In reality, they couldn't care less about them. All they want are the mineral (oil) and fishing rights in the area.
You are partly right. Two aircraft flew to the north to confuse the British task force. They were only spotted when they were about 12 miles out and appeared on the horizon.
They launched their exocets at the carrier - but the exocet guidance system detected a larger target (the Atlantic Conveyor) and locked onto that instead.
Talk about inaccurate numbers is irrelevant, really. Argentinian forces invaded (occupied, if you like) the Falklands (Malvinas). The British arrived and kicked them out. End of story. (almost)
20 years later we're still there. At some point, no doubt, politicians will agree to hand over the islands, introduce joint sovereignty or some other compromise. At the end of the day, Argentinian politicians keep the people 'wound up' about the islands on a nationalistic basis. In reality, they couldn't care less about them. All they want are the mineral (oil) and fishing rights in the area.
She took so long to come home for the same reason she took so long to get there in the first place. Before she had even left port in the UK there was a problem with the prop, or gearbox or something, can't remember the whole story...But what we did, was to damaged the invicible...if I am wrong...Why did she take so long to appeared after the war???
There are 3 kinds of people: those who can count & those who can't.
You don´t know us
Argentinian people ( I don´t want to talk about politicians) don´t care about oil or ships rights... We care about our pride...the one that you stole in the year 1833
Do you think that all the people that went out to the streets in 2 april fo 1982 because of the oil...do you think that we are like Bush??
Do you think that all the people that went out to the streets in 2 april fo 1982 because of the oil...do you think that we are like Bush??
" I want tell our thuth aswell as I want to hear yours "
MLV ARG
MLV ARG
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Frank S.
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How to get by in a harsh world...
http://www.palletmastersworkshop.com/happy.html
Condor... What exactly did you mean by this: "We care about our pride...the one that you stole in the year 1833"
Them's pretty strong words...
http://www.palletmastersworkshop.com/happy.html
Condor... What exactly did you mean by this: "We care about our pride...the one that you stole in the year 1833"
Them's pretty strong words...
When the French landed in 1764 there was no permanent settlement on the Falkands, the Spanish then forced out the French citing the papal Treaty of Tordesillas. The Spanish then forced out a British presence on West Falkland, the British finally moving out in 1774, though they (the British) KEPT their territorial claim to the Islands.
In the late 1820’s, nearly a decade after independence, Buenos Aires sent Louis Vernet to the Falklands to claim governorship, in 1831 he pissed off the Elmers who promptly levelled Port Louis. Vernet scurried back to Buenos Aires leaving a token force behind who were then expelled by the British in1833.
So, historically at least, the British had prior claim before 1774, at which time Argentina wasn’t an independent nation.
In the late 1820’s, nearly a decade after independence, Buenos Aires sent Louis Vernet to the Falklands to claim governorship, in 1831 he pissed off the Elmers who promptly levelled Port Louis. Vernet scurried back to Buenos Aires leaving a token force behind who were then expelled by the British in1833.
So, historically at least, the British had prior claim before 1774, at which time Argentina wasn’t an independent nation.
You're only supposed to blow the bloody doors off!
again
First of all Spitz why are you insulting me??? Do I say something wrong??? Please be a little more mature...ok? war is over!!!
1764: First colony in the Islands...FRENCHS
1766: Spain kick out the French 1776: Spain created the “Virreinato del Rio de la Plata” and the capital was Buenos Aires. The Virreinato included the Malvinas. When Argentina got the Independence automatically all the territories of the Virreinato belongs to Argentina ( International Rights)
1811: Spain leaves the Islands because they need troops to fight against Argentina (in 1810 we get free)
1816: Independence of Argentina and claims the Islands
1820: First Argentinean government in the Islands.
1825: ENGLAND ACCEPTED ARGENTINIAN INDEPENDENCE…SO THE ACCEPT THAT THE MALVINAS ARE PART OF THE ARGENTINEAN TERRITORIE
1833: The British empire invaded the Malvinas…Kick out by force the Argentinean people
Frank S. :What I mean was that also with the Islands you stole our pride...
Rabby: It took 3 weeks to get to the Malvinas, and the took a few months to come back
1764: First colony in the Islands...FRENCHS
1766: Spain kick out the French 1776: Spain created the “Virreinato del Rio de la Plata” and the capital was Buenos Aires. The Virreinato included the Malvinas. When Argentina got the Independence automatically all the territories of the Virreinato belongs to Argentina ( International Rights)
1811: Spain leaves the Islands because they need troops to fight against Argentina (in 1810 we get free)
1816: Independence of Argentina and claims the Islands
1820: First Argentinean government in the Islands.
1825: ENGLAND ACCEPTED ARGENTINIAN INDEPENDENCE…SO THE ACCEPT THAT THE MALVINAS ARE PART OF THE ARGENTINEAN TERRITORIE
1833: The British empire invaded the Malvinas…Kick out by force the Argentinean people
Frank S. :What I mean was that also with the Islands you stole our pride...
Rabby: It took 3 weeks to get to the Malvinas, and the took a few months to come back
" I want tell our thuth aswell as I want to hear yours "
MLV ARG
MLV ARG
Condor
I think you've just highlighted my point. Argentinian politicians have put forward a patriotic argument and the people have fallen for it. If there was the will, the people could test the government on this issue. Offer the British government all mineral and fishing rights around the Falklands/Malvinas in return for Argentinian sovereignty.
I think:
a) the British government would quickly find ways to hand over the islands
BUT
b) the Argentinian government wouldn't make the offer in the first place. They want the mineral rights. And they'll keep on with the 'patriotic' argument to try and get them.
But, you'll probably know the saying "No se gano Zamora en una hora"
Who knows, one day, ....maybe!?
I think you've just highlighted my point. Argentinian politicians have put forward a patriotic argument and the people have fallen for it. If there was the will, the people could test the government on this issue. Offer the British government all mineral and fishing rights around the Falklands/Malvinas in return for Argentinian sovereignty.
I think:
a) the British government would quickly find ways to hand over the islands
BUT
b) the Argentinian government wouldn't make the offer in the first place. They want the mineral rights. And they'll keep on with the 'patriotic' argument to try and get them.
But, you'll probably know the saying "No se gano Zamora en una hora"
Who knows, one day, ....maybe!?
Condor...you stupid Argie.....
Read this before making stupid Claims...
http://www.yendor.com/vanished/falklands-war.html
and refer to the year 1690.
Enough Said.
Read this before making stupid Claims...
http://www.yendor.com/vanished/falklands-war.html
and refer to the year 1690.
Enough Said.
please....
jay did I insult you? so be quiet...
I got my information from a kelper who studied the history of the malvinas and realized and CHOOSE to be argentine...I don`t remember his name...
jay war is over...remember it
I got my information from a kelper who studied the history of the malvinas and realized and CHOOSE to be argentine...I don`t remember his name...
jay war is over...remember it
" I want tell our thuth aswell as I want to hear yours "
MLV ARG
MLV ARG
