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The first few times I tried it, I was too knackered to do anything but as my fitness improved, I found that sh**ging fat birds does wonders to build your "strength of mind"!!! :D
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It's easier when you have fighting order on
El Prez you lie like a hairy egg :lol: Although I admit the useful belt hold is only marginally offset by the extra 44lbs (yours and his) :o

Jules - roll her around in flour and aim for the damp patch.

m4tt - Exeter's finest will be lining up outside St Davids station for you first leave after reading this.
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El Prez wrote:Sully, Stuey and I forgot to mention that it's two football pitches long
Oh yes.... 200 metres to cover in less than 90 seconds carrying......

1 x oppo (say 11 stone)
2 x sets of webbing (44lbs)
2 x SA80's (20lbs)

Oooh, that's almost 15 and a half stone, the approximate weight of a fat bird - well done Matt! 8)
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Sully wrote:Jules - roll her around in flour and aim for the damp patch.
Being a bird myself, thats really information I didnt need! But always useful to know in case the Scarlet Pimpernel ever becomes so inebriated he needs a bit of a hint! But as Royal I expect him to have had sufficient training not to need this information :lol:
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Sully wrote:
Never had any probs on the ropes - apart from that routine where you sprint to the first obstacle, do it, sprint to the ropes, up you go, sprint to the next obstacle, do it, sprint to the ropes, up you go, etc. for what seems like forever. That was a killer - until that magical moment when you learn to breathe out of your arse. Oh happy days eh? 8)
Dear God :o I'm starting to wet myself! I thought sprinting through each piece individually and then doing the whole thing timed was hard! One question, with phys so tough, how can people fail the Commando tests? Surely there is ample training in the 30 weeks to bring you up to scratch?
Oh, and one other thing...what if you collapse doing that sprinting stuff, or can't climb the rope? I know failure is unacceptable but what can they do if you keep falling off like a rag-doll or can't keep up with press-up reps or whatever? Bark until you do it i'd imagine :o :o
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Jules - it was an old joke and I couldn't resist it :lol: Just hope he doesn't get so innebriated that he starts calling you Dave :lol: (reference to another old joke - about a bootneck returning from deployment).

Dan - you'll soon get used to it mate. The 30 weeks for me seemed to be one long degradation (mind I was an old duffer at 26 when I did it) - didn't feel like I was getting fitter at all. At the end though after some decent scran and a bit of rest (and after I got over the septicaemia that I contracted on one of the tests) you'll feel like you could jump over the moon.

Going back to what my Fusillier friend said (on another thread) the DS and the PTI's will know when you've really had enough - and it will be a long way past what you think. They've probably seen every pained expression and 'f**k face' imaginable - both real and feigned - and can tell the difference. Slackers can expect extra attention :o

Don't worry too much mate - they think you can pass it (hence passing the PRMC) and, I think, so do you :wink:
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It's weird considering the horror stories i've heard, but i'm beginning to get really excited. The chance to learn to become a soldier of the highest calibre, to get out there and really do some exciting stuff, is pretty enticing! I'd imagine i'm going to need all the enthusiasm I can muster!
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...and the chance to spend 99% of your time blowing out of your arse....it's great Dan :lol: Anyway, you know what I think about it all. You've a lot to look forward to - not least the 15 stone heffers that m4tt will be heaving up and down Exeter High Street :lol:
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I think being short/5'10" and heavy/fat like me makes htis a bit easier.... I ran for about 100m today with my 19 6'4" companion on me....

Not bad huh?

Trouble was his legs kept on bashing into me....

Now to learn to run more than 400m, carrying only myself..... hmmm....

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freak wrote:Trouble was his legs kept on bashing into me....
How were you carrying him ? Knight saving damsel in distress style ? :lol:

The guy below has the technique 'almost' sorted but that's probably down to the fact that his bald oppo is laughing his tits off and squirming around a bit (note that the carrier is in the 'left handed' carrying position)

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On the picture, Baldie's leg is sticking out, this leg will be tucked on top of your webbing and his free hand as El Prez said will be gripping the belt of the webbing.

As far as weapons go, it's strapped to your back as usual, and tucked behind a bungee (in between the main pooches) to stop it swinging about - So you now have a free hand to beat all the way to the finish line.

Please note however that PTI's will adopt 'Tasmanian Devil Mode' if you try and carry as seen below

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...and 'Tazmanian Devil Mode' isn't really very good for your health and consciousness. Good stuff there Stuey.

My question is to freak: before m4tt asks, did you get a sh*g at the end of it? :lol:
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dan wrote: how can people fail the Commando tests? Surely there is ample training in the 30 weeks to bring you up to scratch?
Well not that many fail the tests, don't forget you get 3 attempts on each test so even if you have a bad day its not the end of the world. reasons for failing a test can be anything really, bad day, injury, nerves - i failed my first attempt at the tarzen course - basically psyched myself out over the 6ft wall before i'd even set off, that was in the morning, at lunch we had a beasting, then i passed the tarzen course in the afternoon :roll: , trg team said the beasting was for my benefit as they could see I had too much nervous energy which was hampering my concentration for the tests, i decided not to tell rest of the troop that info :lol:

those that are not good enough will be gone well before test week.

Incidentially i think you'll find recruit training is not entirely designed to build you up for test week - more wear you down, if you can do it at your lowest you'll be able to do it anytime. enjoy - it's not that bad
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Sully wrote:Jules - it was an old joke and I couldn't resist it :lol: Just hope he doesn't get so innebriated that he starts calling you Dave :lol: (reference to another old joke - about a bootneck returning from deployment).
Thats even more funny cos his name really is Dave!!! :lol:

You'd better tell me the joke now!

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I can't really remember the details - its a bit of a shaggy dog (no double entendre intended) story but a bootneck returns and is met by his lovely wife whom he kisses tenderly etc. and adorns with presents etc. He 'nips' out for a swift half to the local and returns shiters and collapses into bed. Missus is a bit put out but is so pleased to see him, thinks she can revive him by smoking the old jambon. Bootneck stirs and says "not now Dave I'm shiters". :wink:
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Although designed for getting you and your injured oppo out of "there" sharpish the test is different.
Your oppo should not be a sack of suds.
His job is to curl around you and hang on as tight as possible whilst trying to stay as high on your shoulders as possible.
This will leave you to get on with running rather than trying to drag a sack of suds for 200m.

The higher he can sit the better.

During training I got lumbered wit my oppo who was the same height (6ft), but weighed 13 stone. I weigh 10 stone at most.

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