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I have just put an application in to join the RN. I have received the standard details on the AIB. I was hoping that somebody could provide me with additional resources / advise.

Thanks for eth help in advance

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Literally finished my AIB yesterday with a pass.

All I can really say is that the materials you have show accuratly what's involved. As for atittudes of staff e.g. a tough 'mean' PSO as in the video is very much dependant on the one assigned to your board.

I would reccomend being up to date on current affairs and definately being up to date on where the RN is at that time. Apart from that keep up a good standard of knowledge of the RN and your particular kind of entry.

See people have already given advise on the Discussion exercise and PLTs so I won't go into them except to say they're a lot of fun.

If there's anything in particular your worried about put it here and i'll try my best to answer.


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Will, read the Daily Telegraph, sounds old fashioned, but it's what the staff do every day, then you will know what they know.
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Hi my names Phil

I have applied for the Royal Navy as an Articifer. I'm currently 23 years old, I have done a Modern Apprenticeship in Engineering as a Toolmaker, I have an NVQ2/3, O/HNC, and 2 years experience.

My Careers advisor said I would have to do another Apprenceship to become an Articifer.
My question(s) is, Is he right? and do I have to do another Apprenceship?

Thanks, PHIL :roll: [/b]
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It's a 2.5 year course run at HMS Sultan, Portsmouth. Worth doing as your whole career is srtuctured around the knowledge acquirred.
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2.5 years? is that opposed to 4 years fresh from school?

From what I know there are 3 main specialisations for an Artificer.
Marine Engineering, Weapons Engineering, Air Engineering.
(in order of hardness left to right)

I put down my choices of 1st Air 2nd Weapons, but..

1. Depends if you make the grade
2. Depends what your choices are
3. What the RN wants you to be
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Does anyone know what an Artificer does apart from Maintenance?

and also will my grades help me in the RN for future promotions?

I know I ask too many questions but it save going to the careers office every day! so I thought "why not ask these battle hardened veterans?"

What is the GOLDEN RIVET??? :D
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Being an ex Artificer (Tiff) myself I can assure you that you too will have to attend the 2.5 year course. BUt it's worth it. There will also be a training period of about 5 years once you get back to sea. After this you should be a Chief Petty Officer Artificer.
The trade off for all this training used to be better pay, but since 'pay 2000' or whatever they call it you may find the bean counter or Office secutary earing more than you on the ship.

At least you will fly through the fitting and turning phase.
Ontop of all this you will earn a HND in plant engineering.
Trust me, pretty usefull once you get outside.
As for choices of branch, well you can ask but personally, Flight has a easier more relaxed lifestyle, marine engineers work like dogs and the weapons tiffs are all homosexuals :wink: But don't worry it's ok to be gay in the services nowadays.
I think that it's even encouraged ;)
Thank god I got out in time :)
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:D Phil,If some old 3 badge stoker offers to show you the 'Golden Rivet',for christ sake dont bend over to take a closer look?.Aye JR :wink:
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Yeah I got load of that :o from Sticky.. takes an interest in Stokers doesnt he?


Hmm.. maybe its because he was a more senior rank than them and had perverted them to his own will? (was i close?) :wink:
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El Prez, you mentioned the telegraph....but i dont really like it. Dont suppose many of them assesor people read the Sun or Star? :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Currently a WE tiff at Collingwood.

The current structure (i say current because it is always changing), for WE, is that you attend Raleigh for 10 weeks and then go to Collingwood for 11.
Raleigh is just squarebashing and a small amount of academics. It is where they stream you however and you will have to work hard if you discover that you are keen on a particular branch, to ensure that you get your choice.
Your 11 weeks at Collingwood are probably going to be pretty noddy for you as it is just basic electrical safety and basic practicals.
Then comes the fun bit. You go to sea. This varies in length. You will have a 4 or a 6 month draft. If you are unlucky and your ship sinks (as mine did) then it could be shorter than that. You then come back to Collingwood and embark upon an epic 2 year course. At the end of which you will be promoted to leading hand. It is also where they will tell you whether or not you will be streamed submariner. This is no longer a purely voluntary service. After spending 18 months as a leading hand you are promoted to Petty Officer providing you have a satisfactory performance. 4 years after that you are a chief.

Obviously all these dates are performance related but they are achievable. The course you will do regardless of the branch you enter is a Mechanical Engineering HND with relevant modules according to your branch attached. This is however, being reviewed and could be upgraded to a Bsc. Hons. in the same subject or related at portsmouth uni.

That is life in a nutshell. I leave you with a cautionary word though. Your time at Raleigh will most likely be spent with kids that have just left school and have no real idea on the discipline score. This can make your life very difficult during BT. It can also make it a bit of a stress at Collingwood (First Visit). It does however, become a hell of a lot better at sea. Add to this that there will be older and more experienced people added to your course during your second stint at Collingwood and it evens out pretty well. The morale of this ramble: Do not PVR for any reason until you have joined your ship. It is not worth basing your decision on 4 shit months out of a possible 22 years of good crack!!!!!!

Hope the shpeel has been of help and if you need any more info then drop me a line and i'll do my best.

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