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Hey I am going to college to get GCSE's and after that A levels over three years to join the army as a officer but I have a question when you are no longer a officer cadet and you come a Second Lieutenant once you have completed your training and have decided what area you want to go into combat in this case do you go stay with the 30 strong platoon they give you? and what do you do with that platoon parades training even real combat leading?
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No.
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So what do you do once you have become a Second Lieutenant? right after training? it says on there site you get a 30 man platoon i am just wondering how that works how you go about meeting the platoon etc?
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Wouldn`t worry if I were you 8)
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JJ, walk before you can run.

This:
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...is a comma. When you have mastered it, we may go from there.
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I see .. well maybe I should just quit my dreams of joining as a officer .. sinse almost every topic asking for officer related advise on this forum I've seen has been pretty much laffed at .. you guys are right I suffer from mild dyslexia I did'nt get GCSE's in school not because I did'nt take them because I like many teens in the UK was a wanabe rebel and stoped attending school in around year nine my dyslexia means I forget small details does that make me a retard? I forget where to put things like commas but I can get a C in GCSE English what is the only req for English to become a officer and ofcourse after taking it I would have improved .. I joined this forum for some support can I stay a member with you guys over looking the fact I need to get back into using grammar? I am sure once I start to study it will all come back to me and I might not seem so retarded .. thanks for your support guys .. hey I guess honesty is the best policy?

and by the way just because I can honestly say I could only ever improve my skills in english to get a C does'nt mean I won't be able to get the 35 GCSE points needed before A levels in many other areas like business studies and IT I would expect to get aleast a A in.
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JJ, not really much interested if you have dyslexia / lack of GCSE's / stupidity / writer's block, and neither will the Army.

Fact is, the Army, particularly for an officer, requires certain basic standards, and one of those is spelling. As such, this and pretty much any other worthwhile military forum you will come across tends to enforce those standards too. So if you want to get advice here, take the time to 'get back into using grammar', because you will need to do it for the rest of your life, so the sooner the better. More to the point, if you want an introduction into the Army way of doing things, this is it: you meet their standards, they aren't interested in accommodating yours.

If you're going to quit now in a huff rather than take a bit of criticism onboard and try to fix it, then this really isn't for you.
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I never liked skool meself :roll:
Full of feckin kids, wasn`t it :P

Five years old and young Hackers was ritually humiliated and often abused and punished for no good reason by Sister Bernadette and her dikey nun mates, if this is what religion is about, you can effing poke it. St Ambrose skool in Liverpool was only the start of it. She hit me so hard in the face with her crucifix one day, that it split my lip. Five years old. 8)

I went on to Cardinal Allen grammar in west derby where those touchy feely jesuits gave me the good news every fukcing day.
I`m sure I have a very good case against Liverpool City Council Dept of Education btw 8) .
On the bright side, those years of systemic abuse, of constant beatings and of occasional inappropriate sexual contact, (hey Mr Mocket :wink: ) had a beneficial outcome after all! 8) Yippeee!

R2I was a piece of piss after the skooling I`d had. :P
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harry hackedoff wrote: Five years old and young Hackers was ritually humiliated and often abused and punished for no good reason by Sister Bernadette and her dikey nun mates
Aha! It's all starting to make perfect sense, now! :wink:
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For the info you require go to www.army.mod.uk and click around. It tells you everything. e.g. http://www.army.mod.uk/infantry/join_th ... /index.htm

Non-Graduate Officer:
"There is no requirement for those wanting to join the officer to go to unversity. The requirement to join remains at five good GCSEs (A to C with English, Maths and a science or foreign language) and at least 140 UCAS pionts at A ro AS levels. You will be treated exactly the same as those with a degree. There is the possibility that you will spend a little longer as a platoon commander in command of troops which is worth considering! "


The army site has all the answers to your questions. basically I'm not arsed to do your research for you.
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jj10125 wrote:Hey I am going to college to get GCSE's and after that A levels over three years to join the army as a officer but I have a question when you are no longer a officer cadet and you come a Second Lieutenant once you have completed your training and have decided what area you want to go into combat in this case do you go stay with the 30 strong platoon they give you? and what do you do with that platoon parades training even real combat leading?
Go and talk to your local recruitment office or visit your local TA unit and I am sure you will get all the advice you need in order to make an informed decision.
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If you get into the training school for Officers and you don't know what to do at the end of it they will show you the door
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Most officers do infact require our help, SOO Save our Officers...................................from making decisions.
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Tab wrote:If you get into the training school for Officers and you don't know what to do at the end of it they will show you the door
...to the RLC.
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It's something of a Catch 22 situation. The sad fact is that the role of platoon/troop commander is something of a testing ground (described often as a "stepping stone) for junior officers. It's really a make or break time for these guys. If their performance is less than stellar pl/tp command may well be the last time they are provided the opportunity to lead troops in a meangful manner.

For jj10125, I'd say you have a heck of an uphill challenge ahead if you intend to be an officer with the dyslexia, etc.

"my dyslexia means I forget small details does that make me a retard"

No, but in the eyes of many, it will flag you as unreliable. The small details are where the Devil resides, after all.

By the way, the longer you stay as an officer, the more and more paperwork (called staff work) you will have to do and the higher the standard of staff work that will be demanded. For instance, if you are to draft an operations order for the CO, it better be in VERY good shape before you pass it to him for review and signature. If you give him shyte, it will happen only once!

Not trying to be all doom and gloom, but just trying to encourage you to be realistic.
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