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I do recall the Queens Colour Squadron being "no good in a street fight" as the old saying goes :lol:

Chas, a lad from our village was one of the PWRR MC winners from that tour. I know a few of the other young lads from the village in the PWRR and they're all sound as a pound - probably pretty good in a street fight as well.
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What would you soft southern bastards know about street fights :P Kinnell :roll:

And SuperFAC ,
So no snotty comments from airborne/marines thank you very much .
As if :roll:

And Welcome aboard mate, :wink:

You want to watch yerself on that tongue Ron, you`ll cut yerself with it one day, "chopsy sea hat" indeed :roll:
If I didn`t know you better I`d say you have the painters in mate 8)
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Chas wrote:I for one get fed up with comparisons. Healthy rivalry and banter
are o.k. at the right time. However all sensible serving Bootnecks
and Paras realise that regiments complement each other and all
can learn from one another.

Furthermore several Army regiments have performed just
as well in adversity and it is good to see them get their just
acclaim.
Hear hear.
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harry hackedoff wrote:You want to watch yerself on that tongue Ron, you`ll cut yerself with it one day, "chopsy sea hat" indeed :roll:
If I didn`t know you better I`d say you have the painters in mate 8)
Well he effing well is! There's a fine line between banter and plain gobbing off, and he was well over it.
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Give it a rest Ronnie, the post was a slightly tipsy bit of banter, you'll even notice a few smilies in there denoting it as such. If I wanted to gob off for the sake of it I'm sure I could come up with something slightly more insulting and/or original :wink:

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I dont want to keep going on about it, but it makes me so angry and punch my own bloody monitor when you get some of the crap written. I cant believe people actually believe only Paras/RM's do all the fighting and the rest just stag on. Theres been normal regiments like the R Anglians and the Mercians involved in real nasty,hardcore war fighting in Afghanistan. The casualty rate is terrible. And the same can be said for the Rifles and Royal Welsh when I was in Iraq just gone. People dont realise just how bad it is still in Iraq. Well, when we were still in the Palace anyway. And the PJCC was like Rorkes Drift at times Im serious.

Like I said I dont want to keep going on about it but it does wind me up. Recognition is very important I think and when people still say the things they do its disrespectful and insulting to the lads who are doing brilliantly.

Its good to see Greenronie say what he did about the Royal Anglians. Because sometimes the Paras can be alittle :-? insulting sometimes. There were some amongst 3 Para who didnt want the Fusiliers and the Royal Irish to come out to Afghanistan last year. The Fusiliers came out with less than aweeks notice and went on to hold apposition in Nowzad Hill for over 4 months. The longest in British Army history I think. And not a word in the media. Which I think is the reason behind all this in the first place. There does seem to be a bias towards the Paras/RM's

Anyway rant over. And more seriously did anyone watch Corrie last night. I missed it
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druadan wrote:Give it a rest Ronnie, the post was a slightly tipsy bit of banter, you'll even notice a few smilies in there denoting it as such. If I wanted to gob off for the sake of it I'm sure I could come up with something slightly more insulting and/or original :wink:
Get your head down you mong. Happy faces don't make it ok. If you were on the lash what were you doing on a computer anyway?
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SupFAC wrote:The only factor I would consider in my opinion is that Marines look after there boys better,when I say this I mean at QM/stores/getting kit/conditions.
Complete b*llocks. Para Regt look after the blokes by giving them what is available. The blokes however don't constantly moan and whine about the lack of kit!
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I think all this soldiers complaining about lack of kit argument is just something made up by the media and politicians. Ive never met anyone in the Army who as ever complained about there kit or lack of it. I think on the whole we are issued wth good kit especially when on tour. In fact I would go as far to say we get too much kit sometimes. And some of it is a complete pain in the arse ie Ofsprsay Body Armour. Granted it gives you more protection and may of saved lives in some curcumstances. But it effects your agility big time. It obviously been brought out as a responce too calls by the press for better kitwhen really the blokes on the ground would rather not have it
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What would you soft southern bastards know about street fights Kinnell
Good point H - probably not much more than you lot know about thieving :wink: Have good'un my friend. I intended to have a quiet one but I've panic -bought far too much grog what with all this cold weather :roll: I think it's a sign of insecurity. Hey Ho.
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Doc wrote:I think you are looking at it from all the wrong angles myself.

Ever thought of a trade?

Look past the trainign to make a decision then once made concentrate on one and getting in/passing.

Doc
Hi Doc, since i started looking i have been keen to join the Marines, but recently i have been looking into the Army and I'm not sure which is best for me.

I wouldn't mind being in the infantry and on the front line, but i would like to become an officer at some point, im going to need extra training,
so could i do this at any point in the army or does it have to be straight away, or when i have the experience?

reading everyones posts now im leaning towards the Army. now i need to decide which trade...

well as far as trades go, i have looked at a lot, and the options within the Marines and Army that appeal to me are pretty similar. i want to have a role within the combat sector and to also gain higher ranks.

thanks GuyNamedBob
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GuyNamedBob wrote: -If I were to join the Army, I don't want to feel as if I haven't pushed my self as far as I can.
-I see the Army as being a lot easier to get into, but you don't have such an important role.
Ouch!

Not having a pop mate, but in my humble opinion like many people who post about joining the army/marines or paras/marines you may have read to many commando comics (though i still read them sometimes they're great!). Joining the armed forces in any capacity requires a level of fitness higher than your average civi will ever attain and joining the infantry or commando brigade even more so.

Get into your local recruiting office and ask to go on 'look at life' weekends to get the chance to find out about any units you are interested in. Why not do the PRMC? Even if you decide thats not for you the experience and fitness training would stand you in good stead for any future armed forces role.
My mate from my unit (STAB) is joining the regs next year and one of the things that affected his choice of unit was the location of his regiment, not a factor for everyone but there's a load of things to consider aside from what colour lid you might be wearing!

Good luck though.

Just dont join the Royal Engineers

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RA_Tom wrote: Ouch!

Not having a pop mate, but in my humble opinion like many people who post about joining the army/marines or paras/marines you may have read to many commando comics (though i still read them sometimes they're great!). Joining the armed forces in any capacity requires a level of fitness higher than your average civi will ever attain and joining the infantry or commando brigade even more so.
hi Tom, i didnt mean it in the sense that everyone other than the Marines are slow, unfit etc...i meant that the Army aren't quite as well trained as the Marines (thats my opinion anyway, probably influenced by the media), but are still better trained than other forces and those on civi street :).

With the PRMC, if passed, is there no obligation (?) to then join?
im sure i would, though just out of interest.
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In response to Rooper's post, tend to agree, without having firsthand experience of other unit's ops I can't believe we're issued any guccier kit than anyone else. You get on with what you've got...everyone drips abou the lack of this that and the other, but it doesn't make it materialise in the store. And even if it did, the QM still wouldn't give it you :roll:
Just dont join the Royal Engineers
Unless of course you want to specialise in their kinda stuff. We have 59 Ind. Cdo. Sqn. RE attached to us who are very good at what they do, I'm sure Para Regt. have a similar arrangement, and I'd assume every other battle group rotating through Afghan/Iraq also has elements of RE attached to them. If you want to be an infantryman then you can enter into the Green/Pink (don't flash Ronnie :wink: )/Blue/various others debate, if you have other aspirations then don't let the whole 'RM/Paras/PWRR are the best' argument influence you.

Ronnie, I seem to have rubbed you up the wrong way for which I apologise, I'm not going to say any more on the matter other than however you interpret what I've said, I have nothing but respect for all Army infantry (and indeed all) regiments. Yes I've met some nobbers of many coloured hat, but I also have in the Corps. I did add another little jibe here but deleted it as I wouldn't want to offend you further :wink:
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druadan wrote:Ronnie, I seem to have rubbed you up the wrong way for which I apologise, I'm not going to say any more on the matter other than however you interpret what I've said, I have nothing but respect for all Army infantry (and indeed all) regiments. Yes I've met some nobbers of many coloured hat, but I also have in the Corps. I did add another little jibe here but deleted it as I wouldn't want to offend you further :wink:
OK mate, no probs. I'm all up for a bit of banter, but you can't say that the army are shite, and we wear 'pink hats' without expecting a response though.
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