I've got my application to re-join back in now, sop hopefully get another crack at it and do 4 years.
I must admit it's 10 times harder training for it this time, now I've got a lot more interests and commitments going on in civvy street. It's nearly 3 years to the day when I entered RT, so not that long ago, but it's taking more effort and motivation to put the time and preparation into getting to the standard just for a prmc.
I'm sure I had the mental strength to get through last time, but definitely got a few doubts now. Hopefully they'll disappear with the weight, but to see how it goes.
But your right what your saying mate, with people and injuries and being admitted to hunter coy really scares the living daylights out of me. Saw one guy that was in there 3 years, they wouldn't let him go even though they knew he could never re-enter training, that's my biggest fear.
You applied yet Southerner?
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Think yourself lucky I failed my first medical on shin splints recovered now ive had a bad knee problem. Two operations later its worse they are thinking of trying trying a different op, now it does'nt looking f@#k great for me does it?
Atleast you have had a chance and have got a chance. The future in the RM looks bleak for me but you never no!
Atleast you have had a chance and have got a chance. The future in the RM looks bleak for me but you never no!
On the road to recovery.
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I've got a loose body which they cant find in the op. Floating around my knee geting in the joint ect swelling it up, pressing on the nerve ect.
After the first op (paid 2600 for privatly so it was giving best chance to join the corps)i thought it was gone i started training again, got my hopes up, bang there it is a big hard lump me in agony in the gym trying to push it back into where ever it goes. Had the second op bout a month ago he put me back on the nhs it made my knee worse.
Now he refered me to another surgeon which i have to wait 2 months to have an appointment with so to be honest matey i'm not thinking about it at the moment.
After the first op (paid 2600 for privatly so it was giving best chance to join the corps)i thought it was gone i started training again, got my hopes up, bang there it is a big hard lump me in agony in the gym trying to push it back into where ever it goes. Had the second op bout a month ago he put me back on the nhs it made my knee worse.
Now he refered me to another surgeon which i have to wait 2 months to have an appointment with so to be honest matey i'm not thinking about it at the moment.
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No mate I haven't applied yet. I've only been as far as speaking to the blokes at the recruitment office, getting all the forms etc.
I need to get back in shape and get fit as I'm built for short bursts of power rather than stamina at the moment, so less weights and more cardio for me.
I hope you make it through this time mate, it sounds like it's what you really want.
All the best.
I need to get back in shape and get fit as I'm built for short bursts of power rather than stamina at the moment, so less weights and more cardio for me.
I hope you make it through this time mate, it sounds like it's what you really want.
All the best.
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Guys: Personally, I would recommend any young man to join the Corps. Its no easy fete by any means. Its not meant to be. That's why bootnecks are a breed apart from a lot of the other soldiers. After all, they arn't your average people walking down the street are they?
Its true what Rogue Chef says: Unfortunately a lot of good guys do get injured during training and don't make the end because of it. You can't blame them though as the training can be gruelling at times. Its meant to be. Injuries are inevitable, like any very physical type of training. I respect any guy who manages to overcome any such injuries and propells himself back into training once again. Where possible, I might add.
Without getting injured, it already takes a great deal of grit and determination to pass out. To overcome the injury and do this is exceptional.
I remember the very first day when I set off to join up. I was as nervous as hell. I was even homesick for a while. But above all I was determined to finish what I'd started. Out of 50+ recruits we had 12 left after week twelve and later amalgamated with another troop with a similar problem.
My passing out parade will remain in my memories forever, as it really was one of the very best days of my life. Thankfully, I was lucky enough not to get injured, but I did have a few close shaves along the way.
For those who unfortunately received injuries that have not allowed them to continue their training I hope you keep your heads held high, because you should.
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Its true what Rogue Chef says: Unfortunately a lot of good guys do get injured during training and don't make the end because of it. You can't blame them though as the training can be gruelling at times. Its meant to be. Injuries are inevitable, like any very physical type of training. I respect any guy who manages to overcome any such injuries and propells himself back into training once again. Where possible, I might add.
Without getting injured, it already takes a great deal of grit and determination to pass out. To overcome the injury and do this is exceptional.
I remember the very first day when I set off to join up. I was as nervous as hell. I was even homesick for a while. But above all I was determined to finish what I'd started. Out of 50+ recruits we had 12 left after week twelve and later amalgamated with another troop with a similar problem.
My passing out parade will remain in my memories forever, as it really was one of the very best days of my life. Thankfully, I was lucky enough not to get injured, but I did have a few close shaves along the way.
For those who unfortunately received injuries that have not allowed them to continue their training I hope you keep your heads held high, because you should.
Regards
Steve
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Greywing you strike me as a bloke who sits back and thinks alot about things.. Just an observation.. You know the way things work at CTC already and I am not going to lie to you, it doesnt get easier..
In a nutshell what i am trying to say is when you think your past all the bullshit they will find excuses to give you more bullshit! Just let it ride and dont think you have personally done anything wrong, its just the way it is.. Then before you know it you will be spat out the other end as a fully fledged swamping dumpin bootneck
Good luck
Foxtricks..
In a nutshell what i am trying to say is when you think your past all the bullshit they will find excuses to give you more bullshit! Just let it ride and dont think you have personally done anything wrong, its just the way it is.. Then before you know it you will be spat out the other end as a fully fledged swamping dumpin bootneck
Good luck
Foxtricks..
One thing I would say fellas is you can get very wrapped up in the corp and being a bootneck from the outside.
Just take this in mind...I have kept in touch with a lot of guys still in the corp, from hunter coy and from troop. Went for a beer with an old oppo the other week as it happens.
The reality is, a lot of guys do not like the corp. Retention is not just an issue, but is a spiralling damage to the corp. Out of about 30 fellas who I have either been in touch with first hand or second hand, I have only heard 1 say he enjoys it (and he knew his OC personaly from civvy street). I would say all are thinking seriously about getting out after minimum service and at least half will probably do it in a few months.
Comments like 'leaving left right and centre' spring to mind and 'hand on heart, your not missing anything'.
The issues seem to be, money first of all is the big one, shit kit, and bullshit (which everyone thinks dissapears after training). The corp stratery according to what Ive heard is to get more guys in, and have made training easier, which is obviously pissing off the older fellas.
Why, im saying this: Its all well and good getting realy wrapped up in the corp, enjoy it, and go for it. But dont get yourself totaly hooked on it, or you might be in for a shock, things aint always hoofing. But dont let me take anything away from the achievement. See it as a life change which might go somewhere good, and if not, do your 4 years and get out.
But be awear, you will not be the same. A lot of lads telling me there leaving think its rosey on the outside. They forget how much the corp has changed them, they have been cooked for, looked after, there accounting as been done, they have always had about 30 lads available to go on the piss with. Civy street will be a shock, particularly humour wise, civvies hate bootneck humour.
Be awear fellas.
Just take this in mind...I have kept in touch with a lot of guys still in the corp, from hunter coy and from troop. Went for a beer with an old oppo the other week as it happens.
The reality is, a lot of guys do not like the corp. Retention is not just an issue, but is a spiralling damage to the corp. Out of about 30 fellas who I have either been in touch with first hand or second hand, I have only heard 1 say he enjoys it (and he knew his OC personaly from civvy street). I would say all are thinking seriously about getting out after minimum service and at least half will probably do it in a few months.
Comments like 'leaving left right and centre' spring to mind and 'hand on heart, your not missing anything'.
The issues seem to be, money first of all is the big one, shit kit, and bullshit (which everyone thinks dissapears after training). The corp stratery according to what Ive heard is to get more guys in, and have made training easier, which is obviously pissing off the older fellas.
Why, im saying this: Its all well and good getting realy wrapped up in the corp, enjoy it, and go for it. But dont get yourself totaly hooked on it, or you might be in for a shock, things aint always hoofing. But dont let me take anything away from the achievement. See it as a life change which might go somewhere good, and if not, do your 4 years and get out.
But be awear, you will not be the same. A lot of lads telling me there leaving think its rosey on the outside. They forget how much the corp has changed them, they have been cooked for, looked after, there accounting as been done, they have always had about 30 lads available to go on the piss with. Civy street will be a shock, particularly humour wise, civvies hate bootneck humour.
Be awear fellas.
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I guess a similar statement could be said for many similar jobs, such as The Army, Navy, the RAF or even the Police Force for that matter.
Personally, I've never met anybody who joined the Corps for the money. It may become an issue once you decide to settle down and start a family or after you've done a few years, but for a young man full of adventure, probably not.
I agree that the kit should be reviewed and hopefully they will improve with this.
You don't need to get wrapped up in the Corps, I've been told that it can be used as a worthwhile stepping stone to get into other forms of work after you leave. I guess like Tabber said, it would be worth looking at doing a four year stint. After this time you can make your own mind up where you want to go with your career, and no doubt by this time you will have done your bit.
Of course you won't be the same. You'll be trained and conditioned as a bootneck. They're not meant to be the average Jo or couch potatoe walking down the street or even supping ale in the local pub for that matter, are they?
As for being looked after, I personally found a good chunk of some of the skills I was taught to be useful in the years that followed in civvy street after I went outside. However, I do feel that the armed forces as a whole could give better guidance when you leave.
Civvy street can be a shock and at times challenging. It was for me for a while, but I guess at some point you just need to learn to adapt and find something else to channel your energy and interest into. As far as I'm concerned if anybody had a problem with my humour then it was tough. You often find that a lot of them were just wannabe's. If I had a pound for every civvy that told me he was going to join the corps, but didn't I'd be extremely wealthy.
I recall two guys I once worked with in Runcorn. They were office workers and they told me that they didn't like my kind. I asked what they meant by this statement and they told me that they had no memories about doing anything with their lives apart from working in the same building year in and year out, where as I was the total opposite.
If I could turn the clock back, I know what I'd rather do!!
I'd start my first challenge at CTCRM
All the very best
Steve
Personally, I've never met anybody who joined the Corps for the money. It may become an issue once you decide to settle down and start a family or after you've done a few years, but for a young man full of adventure, probably not.
I agree that the kit should be reviewed and hopefully they will improve with this.
You don't need to get wrapped up in the Corps, I've been told that it can be used as a worthwhile stepping stone to get into other forms of work after you leave. I guess like Tabber said, it would be worth looking at doing a four year stint. After this time you can make your own mind up where you want to go with your career, and no doubt by this time you will have done your bit.
Of course you won't be the same. You'll be trained and conditioned as a bootneck. They're not meant to be the average Jo or couch potatoe walking down the street or even supping ale in the local pub for that matter, are they?
As for being looked after, I personally found a good chunk of some of the skills I was taught to be useful in the years that followed in civvy street after I went outside. However, I do feel that the armed forces as a whole could give better guidance when you leave.
Civvy street can be a shock and at times challenging. It was for me for a while, but I guess at some point you just need to learn to adapt and find something else to channel your energy and interest into. As far as I'm concerned if anybody had a problem with my humour then it was tough. You often find that a lot of them were just wannabe's. If I had a pound for every civvy that told me he was going to join the corps, but didn't I'd be extremely wealthy.
I recall two guys I once worked with in Runcorn. They were office workers and they told me that they didn't like my kind. I asked what they meant by this statement and they told me that they had no memories about doing anything with their lives apart from working in the same building year in and year out, where as I was the total opposite.
If I could turn the clock back, I know what I'd rather do!!
I'd start my first challenge at CTCRM All the very best
Steve
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I suppose the only way to find out is to go for it. One of my mates hated the RM so much that (so he says) he convinced the doctor/psychologist that he was mentally ill to avoid having to do the full 4 years.
Personally I think that maybe he was getting depressed and they picked up on that fact rather than him faking anything, but regardless he only served 3 years.
It hasn't put me off though, I just think it's horses for courses. Joining the RM could be a huge mistake or the best decision of my life. The only way I'll find out is to go for it and see if I'm made of the right stuff.
Personally I think that maybe he was getting depressed and they picked up on that fact rather than him faking anything, but regardless he only served 3 years.
It hasn't put me off though, I just think it's horses for courses. Joining the RM could be a huge mistake or the best decision of my life. The only way I'll find out is to go for it and see if I'm made of the right stuff.
In reference to the original post: I was in training for six months, and left, and it haunted me for months afterwards. I would have dreams where I did something wrong and the training team would be disgusted with me. I hated myself for quitting, used to get lost in confused rage and literally beat myself up over it. I loved parts of the corps, but hated others, and I ended up just hating myself for quitting.
In the end, I got over it, but reading all of your thoughts and contributions on this topic have made me miss Lympstone all over again. I miss the guys I never stayed in contact with. I even miss the w@#k in my troop who always got us into shit. I miss going for scran at nine o'clock when the galley was half empty. And as much as all of this claws away at me, I know if I rejoined, I'd only end up wanting to quit because of the same reasons.
I guess I just wanted to say you aren't alone in having second thoughts about leaving, and about feeling guilty for doing so. Good luck to you.
In the end, I got over it, but reading all of your thoughts and contributions on this topic have made me miss Lympstone all over again. I miss the guys I never stayed in contact with. I even miss the w@#k in my troop who always got us into shit. I miss going for scran at nine o'clock when the galley was half empty. And as much as all of this claws away at me, I know if I rejoined, I'd only end up wanting to quit because of the same reasons.
I guess I just wanted to say you aren't alone in having second thoughts about leaving, and about feeling guilty for doing so. Good luck to you.
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That's the way it goes Imilan. I sometimes feel the same after having passed out and served for a bit. Once in a blue moon I'll have a dream that I'm back in but nobody recognises me. I feel a bit bad for leaving especially as things kicked off as soon as I was outside (Kosovo, Sierra Leone, Afghan 1, Iraq, Afghan 2) but you should be careful what you wish for as they say and I know three now who'll never be coming back or enjoying dits with their oppos and their families.
You're spot on though, if I joined up again (too old now) I'd feel the same frustrations and the rose tint would soon go. Maybe I should join up again to ensure world peace
You're spot on though, if I joined up again (too old now) I'd feel the same frustrations and the rose tint would soon go. Maybe I should join up again to ensure world peace
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Hey Sully: Its the same for me. I've missed the Corps for years. I miss my oppos and the great times we used to have together after we returned from tours abroad etc.
When I train in the gym I often drift back to speed marching down Heart Break Lane. It makes me work harder. I even enjoy playing music from those years on my MP3 player as I pound away like theres no tomorrow on the running machine etc. Great times. Probably some of the best years of my life.
Occasionally, like you, I dream I've joined up again and I always feel pride when I see the Marines in the paper, in a magazine or on TV etc.
It took me a long time to get over leaving. And even today I still sometimes miss it.
Once A Marine Always A Marine, is very probably a true saying I guess.
All the best mate
Steve
When I train in the gym I often drift back to speed marching down Heart Break Lane. It makes me work harder. I even enjoy playing music from those years on my MP3 player as I pound away like theres no tomorrow on the running machine etc. Great times. Probably some of the best years of my life.
Occasionally, like you, I dream I've joined up again and I always feel pride when I see the Marines in the paper, in a magazine or on TV etc.
It took me a long time to get over leaving. And even today I still sometimes miss it.
Once A Marine Always A Marine, is very probably a true saying I guess.
All the best mate
Steve
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Same here Steve. I've been running with an ex para lately and he's full of it about how good the Corps is (he's no slouch himself) - he says Corps - I say paras 
It's got me thinking about the Corps again, you know....I'd better give so and so a shout.
Spoke to your old mucker Si the other day. He seems in good form - hasn't got his teeth sorted out yet though .
Hope all's well with you and yours opps.
It's got me thinking about the Corps again, you know....I'd better give so and so a shout.Spoke to your old mucker Si the other day. He seems in good form - hasn't got his teeth sorted out yet though
.Hope all's well with you and yours opps.
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