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Rite lads,
for all those of you who haven't seen my recent posts begging for help and feeling sorry for myself ; you will not know that I had to leave RM trainnig over two thirds of the way into the course !I am now so bored at home and am desperatly trying to get back into the forces ,I had conjured up a long drawn out way of getting back into the RM but it is looking less likely !I have the option of serving in the Irish army; however I am very interested in the Australian forces (4RAR CDO)so if any of you have any info on them or experienced working with them I'd really appreciate it !
Cheers lads !

Gidday mate, why did you have to drop out?

Sorry I've had no experience with any of the units (I'm still a civvy )
but I have a couple of links that may ne helpful?

http://www.army.gov.au/3RAR/index.htm
http://www.army.gov.au/4rar/index.htm
http://www.military.ie/army/arw.htm
http://www.specialoperations.com/Foreig ... /4SASR.htm

Sorry mate I know I had more but i can't find them. I'm pretty sure there is some info on 4RAR in the forums, and I think I remember the phys entry standards not being to hard.

Gareth

Cheers for the links mate very interesting !I was forced to leave to avoid a medical discharge however my plans so far have not been going according to plan! For blokes in the SF group I would have thought they had decent entry standards ?

matthewl:

viewtopic.php?t=7088

viewtopic.php?t=4760

Fair bit of info in those two threads for you.

matthew i know a lad in you original troop mossy he completed the 30 miler today!

Aremis... this should have been a PM for 2 reasons.
1. You used someones name (a big NO NO!)
2. as it was specific, requiring a reply, you should have PM'd it.

Thanks

Stix

EDIT - Sorry Stix Lesson learned

Cheers Arameis lad ,
that is very usefull and well interesting! Fodd PM on the way !
Cheers lads!

Matthewl,

This is your best bet.

http://www.defencejobs.gov.au/careers_e ... my514.html

PS: Im planning on joining, after i've finished yr. 12 of course..

Bruce McDonald wrote:Matthewl,

This is your best bet.

http://www.defencejobs.gov.au/careers_e ... my514.html

PS: Im planning on joining, after i've finished yr. 12 of course..

Interesting, I surprised by a few things. Mainly how short the course is, at 41 weeks, including jump training etc. (RM doing the recruit course, their blackshod and arctic training, plus jumps course etc. would be, what, 18 months?).

Perhaps it's worth noting that under the definition of "Special Forces" ("Troops which operate behind enemy lines without support from the main force" or somesuch), the Marines, Paras etc. all fit.

As I've said elsewhere, 4 RAR (CDO) are essentially paratroopers/ maritime assault troops, and are really theatre entry forces. They are equivalent to US Rangers or UK Commandos, and all stem from a common source up in Scotland.

4RAR are Australias commandos that are under the ARMY's control - unlike the UK where the commando role was taken up purely by the Royal Marines after world war 2..........

liverpoolirish wrote:

Bruce McDonald wrote:Matthewl,

This is your best bet.

http://www.defencejobs.gov.au/careers_e ... my514.html

PS: Im planning on joining, after i've finished yr. 12 of course..

Interesting, I surprised by a few things. Mainly how short the course is, at 41 weeks, including jump training etc. (RM doing the recruit course, their blackshod and arctic training, plus jumps course etc. would be, what, 18 months?).

Perhaps it's worth noting that under the definition of "Special Forces" ("Troops which operate behind enemy lines without support from the main force" or somesuch), the Marines, Paras etc. all fit.

As I've said elsewhere, 4 RAR (CDO) are essentially paratroopers/ maritime assault troops, and are really theatre entry forces. They are equivalent to US Rangers or UK Commandos, and all stem from a common source up in Scotland.

The training time does look short but its not as short as you think. You do basic training, employment training, accelerated SF training(not the full program), then after all that they see if you are suitable. You take the SF entry test, then if you pass you do full special forces training which goes a lot longer than 41 weeks.

matthewl,

I was wondering when you'd come up with another chad post. So you want to join the Auzzy commandos now? Weren't you joing the Irish army? And before that weren't you thinking of joining a private military company? And before that weren't you interested in joining the Dutch commandos?

The chadness never ends with you does it?

Jesse

Jesse wrote:matthewl,

I was wondering when you'd come up with another chad post. So you want to join the Auzzy commandos now? Weren't you joing the Irish army? And before that weren't you thinking of joining a private military company? And before that weren't you interested in joining the Dutch commandos?

The chadness never ends with you does it?

Jesse

I was thinking the same thing, does he even know what he want's? ,

Actions speak louder than words......

Bruce McDonald wrote:
The training time does look short but its not as short as you think. You do basic training, employment training, accelerated SF training(not the full program), then after all that they see if you are suitable. You take the SF entry test, then if you pass you do full special forces training which goes a lot longer than 41 weeks.

I was pulling stuff from the Australian Army site and here, and adding in all the courses mentioned above it totalled 41 weeks until you're in a regular company of 4 RAR (bearing in mind that they only had 2 regular companies last time I looked, and had reinforcement from 1 Commando Regiment, their reserve equivalent).

However, the implication is that if you don't make the grade at any point you're moved out to another RAR Battalion instead, so the onus was on the recruit to be good enough, not the army to make the recruit good enough. In that way you can cut down on some chaff in training I suppose. (Although the Commando Barrier test makes Junior Brecon look like US Ranger school...).

It should be noted that the RAN has no Marine type contingent, and these are provided by Army units. Bearing in mind Australia has a third of the population of the UK, the fact that it has a third of the commando forces shouldn't be surprising (it also has 1/3rd the airborne and 1/3rd the Special Forces), although these specialist units back a larger portion of the ground forces than in the UK.

Bryn