Martin Luther King formerly known as "Lil Mike"

[Whitey]

The school I attended sent me a e-mail asking me to march in the MLK vigil on 19 Jan. This was my response. What are your thoughts.

"I won't be attending the event due to a conflicting previous engagement.
BTW isn't it now known MLK was recieving direction and funding from the Communist Parties both in Canada, Russia and the US via Levinson? It is also widely understood by reading about the Civil Rights movement that its goal was to truely eliminate Individual Rights as prescribed in the Constitution and replace them with Civil Rights. This ideology is perfectly defined in The Communist manifesto written by Marx and read in Eng. 121.
I am sorry, but to add to the reasons I cannot attend this well enbraced, little understood celebration I by my association and oathe to a government, country and Constitution cannot and will not participate in an event that commemorates a man who waged war (Yes violence followed the man of peace every place he went)on those things at the expense of his own people as in the case of Birmingham he brought in buses of elementary school children to stand between him and the KKK (Another Socialist tactic, and out right child endangerment no matter the moral cause).
Though I know my remarks may well hurt feelings of those who only know the shallow surface of righteousness that MLK is recorded as standing for, you must acknowledge the fact that by my initial admiration of the man which inspired further research led me to discover these deceptive and subversive activities he was involved in. Among the other things I discovered were plagerized sections of his doctorial thesis which as a student who has taken the quaint and modest Eng 121 at a Community College understands is blatently wrong and marks ill character, a man of the cloth and having surpassed me in intelligence and education probably knew better, well without a doubt he knew better.
With all this said I would like to express my deep sympathy for the mistreatment of blacks and other minorities by the "Jim Crow" laws and general attitudes that once were popular but now on the decline.
If you should ever hold a celebration or vigil for Fredrick Douglas e-mail me, he is the only black leader I can think of who truely and unselfishly advised his people and left a legacy of writings that promote self sufficiencey. I'll leave you with one of his quotes

"I prefer to be true to myself, even at the hazard of incurring the ridicule of others, rather than to be false, and to incur my own abhorrence."
Fredrick Douglas

IMHO he was the only true leader for blacks and their struggle for recognition for equality under God and the Law as outlined in the Declaration of Independence by Thomas Jefferson. The consequence of all this division only facilitates the further destruction of the American family, the Constitution and God. Should we decide to realize and accept we are different but the same in many aspects, perhaps we could regain our freedom as written in the Constituion and undermined by illegal contradictory Civil Law.

Good luck and have fun on your march, but remember old Fredrick if you would, not many do.
As always take care and Merry Christmas.
Donald AGS KBP Alumni"

So when do you think the NAACP, ADL and their ilk come kicking in my door?

[Sisyphus]

Reads good to me.

Signed:

Walter Mitty

[Tab]

Please correct me

[BenChug]

Hats off to whitey.

I like that quote.

[Whitey]

King was a Socialist aggitator the more I read of him. On the surface he's great, but when studied his finances came from poor blacks and large sums from the Communist parties in three countries. He never dipped into his own pocket, charged everything to the NAACP. The Chicago chapter turned away from him because his bills were bankrupting them. The incident in Birmingham was so outrageous that Bobby Kennedy called Martin and asked him WTF he was thinking using children as human shields to that Martin responded that he hoped that if the children were harmed it would galvinize squeemish blacks in the north to his cause.
His FBI file was on the net and now it has disappeared, but it showed that the FBI had met with King several times and Hoover at one point asking him to stop associating with the Communist parties and the US government would assist him in his cause, King accepted the offer but never lived up to his end still rubbing elbows with well known Communists.
He used a Ghandi tactic, provocation and then crossing his arms and taking an ass beating making the opposition look like Nazi's.
His doctoral thesis is so grossly plagerized I don't know why he hasn't been stripped of his title. Sad thing compared to his other original writings he wrote better than his stolen stuff, so he wasn't dumb, just lazy.
Fredrick Douglas however unlike the Kings, Jacksons and Sharptons (My uncle) told his people not to ask anyone for anything, to become self sufficient and to become educated, even if all they could afford was going to a library. As a kid I was taught King was a Saint like being and I read deeper into him and at the same time I was big into reading about the Constitution, and on the founding fathers ideas. Kings words in most of his correspondence called for not just equality, but more than equality.
I believe in the Constitution, Bible and the Bill of Rights, King said he did too, but by his actions and demands he didn't, Civil(Soviet in some dictionaries)Rights seemed to undermine the idea of individual freedom. The black suffering was just the emotional vehical required to attract a bovinian mob, much like WMD was used to attract support for the invasion in Iraq just for example. The real motives are always shrouded by a highly emotionally charged subject to prevent those who question from getting to the core of the issue. Oh and just to add an informant in the King cabinet said the night before King was killed, King had prostitutes, booze, some pills delivered to his room, remember he was a self proclaimed Rev. Most blacks at school have no idea who Fredrick Douglas is or was, like most Americans can't tell you the first 10 Amendments to the Constitution. It isn't taught, if we are to remain free why isn't the Constitution taught to every citizen? If blacks are to assimilate and become equals why aren't they taught how to do so, rather than be taught to become beggers for government jobs and on the dole?
My thinking is because someone doesn't want either to, being a slave and ignorant of rights is benificial to certian groups in more than one way.
This is why you and I and everyone must be on the look out for these traps.
Fredrick was alright, a sort of black Jefferson. King was just a Castro.

[Chris]

did they reply whitey?

[Whitey]

Not yet, but they know me. I was a student council senate member but was too offensive for their liking and wasn't interrested in spending my weekends in their silly meetings where they would get off topic for hours on end. I tried to organize an overthrow but the Dean stepped in. I told them stuff like why are we spending 3,000 dollars on Pizza parties for the students when the library didn't have maps, or a decent set of atlas's. I told them why do we sit in meetings on friday nights so they can vent about their boyfriends when we could be at home and just meet mid week during lunch and talk trash via e-mail. Funny thing was a large segment of the student body was behind me, but the Dean is afraid of his own shadow. I got over 600 votes when I ran, the president, she only got like 100, so obviously someone liked what I'd been doing. I also got on the Deans bad side when I confronted a dildo professor who was trying to relive the 60's protest's last year and made old boy look like a meat stick. I wasn't even pro-war, but this shit bird was blaming the troops and everything but who responsibility lays.
I'll probably have to go see the Dean to get my grades, and he'll lecture me to cover his 6. School in the US is beyond anything easily describable. How is it in the UK? I'm switching Universities and start on 5 Jan at UCCS. I had to meet the Dean there, go figure he's some military leary hippie. He was all cool until I told him I played Army for 10 years. His hallway is plastered with anti-war posters many depicting scenes that suggest US atrocities, which is fine with me, but realistically if it wasn't for the troops he wouldn't be getting a fat salary and wouldn't be driving that loaded Volvo. This semester is going to be fun.

[Chris]

in the UK we goto school we don't have school presidents or any of that crap we goto lessions 9 am til 5 pm untill you are 16 and you take your GCSE,s they are the qualification employers look at then you can either leave or stay for an extra 2 years todo A-Levels they are like GCSE's but harder or you can leave school at 16 and do A-Levels in Collage

and i don't think they have School Presidents in University either

and i know they dont in collage

[Sisyphus]

You can read stuff on King by the Creativity Movement, or from Stanford University,etc....

Ultimately people read, and agree with, whatever supports their own point of view or prejudices. At the end of the day, people are judged by what they leave behind. John F Kennedy is generally held in high acclaim but he was a drug-taking philanderer. Nelson Mandela preached armed revolt: now he's regarded as one of THE great figures of the modern world.

However King lived his life, they don't give out Nobel prizes unless someone has made a real difference, for the betterment of the world.

For me, though, Rosa Parks had more courage than King ever did. She stood alone against a terrible wrong and held her ground. When she refused to give up her seat she didn't have the organisation behind her or the backing King had.

[Tony D]

I dont think the college system over here is anywhere near like that.

We dont have "deans", I dont think there's such a sense of the lecturers
and people who run the college have control of what you personally
say or do.

Hope that helped a bit.

[Powder monkey]

Its strange why a US state supreme judge sealed King's record untill 2027.

Its strange why King is held in such reverence - seeing as he was a full blown communist.

Its strange why he liked to use church money to hire white prostitutes.



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[Sisyphus]

Its strange why a US state supreme judge sealed King's record untill 2027.

Its strange why King is held in such reverence

It does seem odd to seal his record. You can read in Encyclopaedia Britannica about his 'seedy' side. Plagiarizing his PhD, and other controversies.

The reverence thing is probably because if he hadn't 'existed' then it would have taken years more for segregation to end. Bearing in mind, in the early 60's [not so long ago for some of us] the U.S., in effect, operated strict segregation between blacks and whites.

[Frank S.]

I think it's difficult sometimes to pick the lesser of two wrongs.
It may be that when it came to dealing with either MLK or Malcom-X/Farrakhan (muslims), it was decided that MLK may be more of an 'interlocutor' of sorts, despite his skeletons.
The knowledge of those skeletons would also imply the necessity to 'seal' records for several decades.

On the other hand there is a cost, unseen by the public, of keeping the black muslim movement in the shadows, so to speak. They have problematic connections to both street and prison gangs, and found 'interlocutors' abroad, as far as Lybia.

[Sisyphus]

Frank

MLK may have been a particularly 'weak' human being but his 'ends' were justified. Those Louis Farrakhan people are worrying. King's ends were, arguably, about bringing people together. LF's seem quite the opposite.

[Powder monkey]

The reverence thing is probably because if he hadn't 'existed' then it would have taken years more for segregation to end. Bearing in mind, in the early 60's [not so long ago for some of us] the U.S., in effect, operated strict segregation between blacks and whites.

It always puzzles me why de-segregation was so popular then and now.

I mean America was getting along just fine when it was segregated. Now look at it. Economic resession - 6000 000 000 worth of national debt, crumbling education system, massive illegal immigration, 20 000 black on white rapes per year etc.

Its a small price to pay for the gift of diversity, I guess.