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Bench/Chest Press

Posted: Mon 14 May, 2007 7:01 am
by Dangermouse
What can you lift? just out of complete curiosity to see what the average Potential can lift.

Posted: Mon 14 May, 2007 8:13 am
by ctcplease
100 kilos for 12 good reps ,120 kilos for six no point doing less reps than that.Il get back to you tonight because its chest night :D

Posted: Mon 14 May, 2007 10:05 am
by rc
ctcplease wrote:100 kilos for 12 good reps ,120 kilos for six no point doing less reps than that.Il get back to you tonight because its chest night :D
Farking hell !!!

How much do you weigh ?
Is that with a barbell or using a chest press machine ?

I weigh 76 kg and can get 3 reps with 80kg.

Rich.

Posted: Mon 14 May, 2007 10:17 am
by degrees of passion
i think its more about how many reps and sets you can do with good form.the bench press has always been my favourite,and although im out of training i'd say i could probably do 12 reps of 90 kg after a warm up.however,id much prefer to stay away from the flat bench and do incline/decline bench press and flies.when i do weights and work my chest i do upto 5 different exercises,with 5 sets on each and varying reps like in pyramids while varying the weight,ie/15,12,10,8,6 while going up 5 kg,and incorporate it into a weight training circuit with say tricep and maybe shoulder exercises aswell,so that it improves your muscular endurance and not just pure strength.

I'll say it now as im sure someone else would,its no good lifting all that weight if you cant turn it into functional strength,for example you ask a meat head in the gym whos benching loads of weight to do some press ups,and its most likely they wont get more than 15-20.

Posted: Mon 14 May, 2007 11:09 am
by AJtothemax
degrees of passion wrote:I'll say it now as im sure someone else would,its no good lifting all that weight if you cant turn it into functional strength,for example you ask a meat head in the gym whos benching loads of weight to do some press ups,and its most likely they wont get more than 15-20.
Thats pretty much right. Its quite strange when you think about it, some of them can bench press a sh*te load but when it comes down to doing some press-ups with their own bodyweight, they're not as impressive as you might think. Its just two different types of strength.

Bench press incorperates explosive strength along with static strength.

Press-ups are more dynamic strength.

Dynamic strength is having the ability to exert muscular force repeatedly or over time. Explosive strength is more in the way of short bursts of muscular force, hense the word 'explosive'. Static strength is basically the amount of muscular force you can exert against an object, a very good example of this i think is a rugby scrum, which is also explosive but it is static too.

All the best.

Posted: Mon 14 May, 2007 11:15 am
by fodd
YOU DO NOT NEED TO HAMMER WEIGHTS FOR ROYAL AS YOU WILL BULK UP TO MUCH YOU WANT TO JOIN UP AS SMALL AS POSSIBLE AFTER TRAINING FEEL FREE TO BULK UP AS MUCH AS YOU WANT. BUT IN NOD TRAINING ANY EXTRA WEIGHT YOU DO NEED WILL JUST SEE YOU OFF

Posted: Mon 14 May, 2007 11:21 am
by AJtothemax
fodd wrote:YOU DO NOT NEED TO HAMMER WEIGHTS FOR ROYAL AS YOU WILL BULK UP TO MUCH YOU WANT TO JOIN UP AS SMALL AS POSSIBLE AFTER TRAINING FEEL FREE TO BULK UP AS MUCH AS YOU WANT. BUT IN NOD TRAINING ANY EXTRA WEIGHT YOU DO NEED WILL JUST SEE YOU OFF
Thats not whats being asked at all but thanks for highlighting that important point. Theres LOADS of threads and discussions on here about why you should NOT hammer the weights to prepare for PRMC/POC/RT. To those of you who want this information (i personally would go and search for it) then please read!

Thanks again.

Posted: Mon 14 May, 2007 11:49 am
by fodd
AJtothemax wrote:
fodd wrote:YOU DO NOT NEED TO HAMMER WEIGHTS FOR ROYAL AS YOU WILL BULK UP TO MUCH YOU WANT TO JOIN UP AS SMALL AS POSSIBLE AFTER TRAINING FEEL FREE TO BULK UP AS MUCH AS YOU WANT. BUT IN NOD TRAINING ANY EXTRA WEIGHT YOU DO NEED WILL JUST SEE YOU OFF
Thats not whats being asked at all but thanks for highlighting that important point. Theres LOADS of threads and discussions on here about why you should NOT hammer the weights to prepare for PRMC/POC/RT. To those of you who want this information (i personally would go and search for it) then please read!

Thanks again.
I know mate but i thought i would highlight the point anyway before the old and bold reply!

Posted: Mon 14 May, 2007 12:08 pm
by eagleeye
I weigh 64 kg and i bench pyramids starting at 60kg finishing at 75kg

Posted: Mon 14 May, 2007 1:33 pm
by marinewannabe
im 84kg and i bench around 105 for 10 reps , and 110 , for 6 , although i do know a little guy about 5ft 7 and 60 kg that can bench around the 100 mark for about 10 reps , so size isnt everything in this movement,.

Posted: Mon 14 May, 2007 1:42 pm
by ADDiction
Another pointless topic, and another chance for inflated ego's to inflate further still.

Nobody cares what you claim to bench, for they cannot see you bench it.

Dangermouse, you are curious to know the average potential lift.

Why?

Posted: Mon 14 May, 2007 2:03 pm
by degrees of passion
for me weightlifting is not about how much weight you can lift but how best to train and condition your body-it is the quality of the exercise that counts,ive found that with the right technique you can get much better results by lifting lighter weights properly.dont get hung up on the weight compared to other people,just judge your progress on what you can lift alone,i suggest doing some research on the net,and try to ........

warm up with light cardio first and try to stretch your chest muscles,warm up again by bench pressing just the bar(20kg),exhale when you push the bar up and make sure your gettin plenty of oxygen in,do the exercise slowly enough so that you dont jerk the weight up,concentrate on contracting the right muscles and squeezing them so that you get the maximum intensity,try not to arch your back,dont bounce the bar back up,do plenty of sets with plenty of reps in a relatively short space of time,and if your training to look good then dont simply keep doing the flat bench as your pecs will look deformed.try using various width grips aswel,but just remember,the training staff at lympstone couldnt care less how much you can bench.

Posted: Mon 14 May, 2007 2:10 pm
by ADDiction
"The training staff at lympstone couldnt care less how much you can bench"

Well said that man.

Posted: Mon 14 May, 2007 2:12 pm
by jammin87
I honestly don't agree with that Addiction. If someone's worked up to benching a good weight, why not say about it - for one it might help inspire someone. It's just the same as asking about ranges of press ups, maybe just not as relevant. I'm guessing he was hoping to see averages, or people's body weight against what they lift.

Posted: Mon 14 May, 2007 2:21 pm
by ADDiction
His question was no more than an ill educated stab into weightlifting.

There is no real answer to his question.

CTC claimed to currently be benching 100kg. All I can see is dangermouse attempting to do the same, failing, and learning nothing.

What can you hope to gain from this, and why exactly do all these members find their own bodyweight so important?

Maybe I should apologise, but then maybe I'm fed up of those who boast.