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extreme training over the next 8 weeks!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1
Posted: Tue 13 Jun, 2006 6:58 pm
by batess01
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Posted: Tue 13 Jun, 2006 7:07 pm
by nufc_rulz
You dont need to do so many weights. Maybe only once or twice a week. Working on muscluar endurance. Do press ups, sit ups pull ups. Scrap the 20 mile tab you dont need it. You also need at least two days rest.
Dont go too fast too soon you will only make yourself ill or injured.
Posted: Tue 13 Jun, 2006 7:44 pm
by sully26
thats right what nufc_rulz said dontover do it plus if i were u i wouldnt work on the legs as this will only tire your legs for the runs which is more important and you wont get the best fitnes you can acheive.
yes chuck the tab out it will only cause injury to your joints and the marines will teach you the right technique from scratch.
Posted: Wed 14 Jun, 2006 10:00 am
by rgj-rifleman
Bloody hell mate, slow down, 20 miles tabbing. You defintly dont need that, not every week anyway. And scrap the weights asap, and start the pushups and chinups and increase whatever you are doing with them to make them alot harder!!!
Your running is fine, since looking at your other posts, i wish i could run at a pace like that. Just try and getting quicker with the runs (not that your scores are bad cause they are perfectly fine) Just since your a great runner you could kick ass on the the PRMC or POC whatever you go for. And since your saying you have afew years to go, you are going to be imensly fit!!!!
Hope all the best for you Bates, and keep up the very good work. Just drop them weights mate.
Posted: Wed 14 Jun, 2006 10:09 am
by Fitness_Freak
I agree, the yomp isn't really the type of training you need to focus on. The RT training is designed to develop you propely to Tab properly. Apart from that your training programme looks good to me, but I'm not expert. The other users are right, weights aren't really necessary to do, you need to focus on just pushing/lifting your own body weight in the form of PS and Pull ups.
Posted: Wed 14 Jun, 2006 10:11 am
by mancuniankid
You dont do any running in boots till week 13 anyway soi don't know why your doing 20 mile yomps now.
Silly billy cut it out before you do serious damage expecially when you ain't having a rest day.
Posted: Wed 14 Jun, 2006 10:23 am
by lodgi
If you're going to do weights do some bench pressing on you're back with you're hands shoulder width apart and keeping you're elbows tucked in, so it's like a press up on you're back. Use a medium weight and do them slowly. I could do 20+ marine press ups when I started trying because i'd been to the gym doing this. It's a good training aid.
Also, instead of doing pull ups (which I can only do 2 of) I use the pull down machine with hands overgrasp to simulate a pull up, I'm going to do this untill I can do 3-4 because I havn't got a pull up machine in the house and I don't go to the gym enough to train properly.
thanks
Posted: Wed 14 Jun, 2006 12:34 pm
by batess01
thanks everyone, realy happy to get such a good response,
atm, the tabbing i wont do every week, il do it now and again, im helping some others train up for "Ten Tors" so il beast them up hills etc.
make a few trips down dartmoor, nothing too much.
the weights:
wat im doing here is trying to get a very strong solid base, il work on this for about another 2 years, then probably stop weights... or deffinately reduce the ammount i do..
as far as "bodyweight" endurance training
pressups
situps
etc
after any cardio i max out on pressups and situps..
and at the end of every weight session i do pyramid schemes on pressups and about 100 situps
when ever i do pressups they are the marine wat, elbows to ribs.
i can do about 35 perfect non stop...
then i can stay in pressups position, but i have to sort of stretch a bit. then i can do another 25... but struggling.
i can do the 60 in 2mins fine tho.
and situps i can do about 130 in 2mins.
routine....
Posted: Wed 14 Jun, 2006 12:37 pm
by batess01
MON- run(3x1.5 10mrec)
TUE- weights(upper)
WED- run(interval4x400m)
THU-
FRI- weights(upper),run(6miles)
SAT- weights lower
SUN- REST
on mondays and thrsdays i do martial art training, so its not a break on thursday,
sunday.. il do tabbing once a month..
taking into consideration wat everyone has sed...
this routine has alot of speed training,interval training, dfor small fast bursts and also... one long run, on the friday... never have enjoyed long runs any ideas how to enjoy them haha?
routine....
Posted: Wed 14 Jun, 2006 12:37 pm
by batess01
MON- run(3x1.5 10mrec)
TUE- weights(upper)
WED- run(interval4x400m)
THU-
FRI- weights(upper),run(6miles)
SAT- weights lower
SUN- REST
on mondays and thrsdays i do martial art training, so its not a break on thursday,
sunday.. il do tabbing once a month..
taking into consideration wat everyone has sed...
this routine has alot of speed training,interval training, dfor small fast bursts and also... one long run, on the friday... never have enjoyed long runs any ideas how to enjoy them haha?
Posted: Wed 14 Jun, 2006 1:46 pm
by In_Training
Mate, your training scheme looks fine to me.
Your scores are testiment to that:
ive just started running realy...
i managed to do:
3miles in 18:30
1.5miles in 8:50
6miles in 45:00
and with the endurance...
i managed...
65pressups (elbow to ribs) in 2mins
and
130situps in 2mins..
As far as people advising you to dump the weights - well im no pro on the subject however i beleive that this is probably because it means you will be carrying more weight (muscle). I dont think this is going to be a problem for you though (your running scores are immense!). I know somebody that when training for the marines (now has his lid) went to the gym every single day and did weights and that suited him just fine.
I stand by that as long as you can do whats required then your doing just fine - and you certainly seem to be able to meet the standard.
The 20mile 'yomp' - yeh this aint a bad idea - instead of it being a 'yomp' with possibly a load carry aspect to it, i personaly would just view it as more of a leisurly hike and carry only the essentials. It will help, be under no illusion from anybody that it wont. Although i do advise removing the 'military-esque' angle from it as i dont think its really necessary just take it easy and enjoy it. I think that once a month is ample but there is nothing to stop you from doing a few shorter ones if you want.
Only YOU know your limits and where you are and would like to be, train accordingly, you still have two years to go so its plenty of time - so make sure you dont go too 'balls out' and injure yourself.
Basically in conclusion - Good effort, Great times / scores, Cardio is more important than strength, hang in there, Good Luck!!
thanks
Posted: Wed 14 Jun, 2006 3:27 pm
by batess01
wise words, cheers mate.
if i am doing the POC in about 2 years possibly 2 and a half.
would you recomend any angle of periodisation...
like.. strength six months
........sprinting 6months
........strength and sprinting 6months
........endurance bodyweight and middle distance running 6months
........long distance running and tabbing six months...
i dont know something like that?
what would you recomend?
or what would you not recomend?
thanks again
Posted: Wed 14 Jun, 2006 3:38 pm
by nufc_rulz
If you spend 6 months training strength and then 6 months training speed in the 6 months your training for speed you will lose your strength.
Just train all areas in your fitness programme and get a good all round fitness.
Posted: Wed 14 Jun, 2006 5:39 pm
by cruicent
You could do the yomping over a weekend and put in compass and map reading skills for practice.
Posted: Wed 14 Jun, 2006 6:01 pm
by Wholley
Just to add to what has already been said,
You could improve your grammar and written English.
Capitalise when you should,Otherwise you come across as lazy.
Keep your text speak for your cell phone and please pay us the respect of using correct English.
