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protein/creatine shakes quick question
Posted: Sun 21 May, 2006 1:24 pm
by degrees of passion
hi guys was just wondering if your allowed to take protein and creatine shakes when during basic training, and what does everyone else here think of them??
Posted: Sun 21 May, 2006 1:55 pm
by Greg The Great
I was wondering about these too. Are they actually worth using?
Greg.
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Posted: Sun 21 May, 2006 2:14 pm
by mitch_boxing
other recruits havent had to use them, so why do you feel youll need them?? Would be good after 30miler though, for definete.
mitch
Posted: Sun 21 May, 2006 2:26 pm
by jimbob
well i'v been taking protein for about 5 months and it's not because i want to turn into the incredible hulk, it's simply because your training will be a lot more effective if your using an appropriate diet...and it's so much easier to have a couple of protein shakes each day than spend half your wages on high protein based foods, however if you can't afford to spend money on protein go to your local supermarket and buy marvel dried milk, there is about 20g of protein in a pint of this stuff (there is about 17g of protein in a full can of tuna), and it's as cheap as chips

Posted: Sun 21 May, 2006 2:33 pm
by degrees of passion
im not disillusioned its not a case of "if i drink this magic shake i'll be superman",but the benefits of adding extra(or replacing lost) protein and creatine levels are well documented-most sports use them,and certainly during basic training they're probably needed the most
-at the moment i only have one to two shakes a day when training and try and have a healthy diet,but im interested in how many of you(recruits/marines) use supplements cos i know that for some reason some people take the point of view that its cheating?like taking steriods to get an advantage,and i know the corp is passionately against the use of any drugs etc,so what's the opinion on supplements??
Posted: Sun 21 May, 2006 2:44 pm
by jimbob
my opinion is that they wouldn't be for it..i think this because at CTCRM they will supply you with all the fats, calories and proteins that are required in your daily diet, you'll get three square meals a day so i don't think there's any need for additional supplements
Posted: Sun 21 May, 2006 3:47 pm
by Scottish_Kiwi
4 square meals
K
Posted: Sun 21 May, 2006 4:33 pm
by Felias
Compared to what I have, they're damn good too.

Posted: Sun 21 May, 2006 4:51 pm
by Hankins
i've heard that taking creatine isn't the best for you, i had a buddy on it and he was taking it and gaining strength and what not except while he was gaining muscle he also gained a load of fat...as good as these drinks/bars look what ever they have in protein they are still bringing the content level of everything else up too... just a thought
Posted: Sun 21 May, 2006 5:01 pm
by Sonne
Hankins wrote:i've heard that taking creatine isn't the best for you, i had a buddy on it and he was taking it and gaining strength and what not except while he was gaining muscle he also gained a load of fat...as good as these drinks/bars look what ever they have in protein they are still bringing the content level of everything else up too... just a thought
No you don't gain fat. However it does promote water retention so your muscles feel softer and you put on additional liquid weight.
Creatine is pretty good for muscular endurance but you shouldn't really rely on it.
Sonne
Posted: Sun 21 May, 2006 6:29 pm
by cruicent
You dont gain fat but does help with extra muscle and weight, which wouldnt be a good idea for running. And ive heard some of the protein/creatine powder stuff has small amounts of steroids. Could you fail a drug test with it in the marines?
Posted: Sun 21 May, 2006 6:39 pm
by borisimo
i saw an article that said use of creatine was linked to kidney problems, if i can find it i'll post it up.
don't know if theres any truth in that however.
sometimes i have protein shakes because i work till quite late and its not always possible to have a decent meal and i dont want to lose out on the goodness....mine has no steroids in it

Posted: Sun 21 May, 2006 6:40 pm
by Sonne
Borisimo wrote:i saw an article that said use of creatine was linked to kidney problems, if i can find it i'll post it up.
don't know if theres any truth in that however.
sometimes i have protein shakes because i work till quite late and its not always possible to have a decent meal and i dont want to lose out on the goodness....mine has no steroids in it

Borismo yo uare right. If your fluid intakelevels aren't high it can do nasty things ot your kidneys. It's a bit like fat metabolisers, you should occasionally come off it to give the body a break.
Sonne
Posted: Sun 21 May, 2006 6:46 pm
by cruicent
Borisimo wrote:i saw an article that said use of creatine was linked to kidney problems, if i can find it i'll post it up.
http://www.ast-ss.com/research/cribb/ar ... 19-011.asp
A report about frogs cancer and kidney research, supposed to be horseshite, but then my brother took creatine and protein and has cancer, so whether it does or not, Im keeping well away
Does it help with endurance and body weight exercises?
Posted: Sun 21 May, 2006 6:56 pm
by Sonne
I'll dig out a few materials and post a bit about Creatine's function in the body.
Sonne