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Urgent Advice.
Posted: Fri 20 Feb, 2004 12:17 am
by Clueless
Hello everyone im posting this message as i need to be 100% confident about what im doing in the navy.
Im 19 years old and im joining the royal navy soon and need to know if im doing the right thing.
My heart is 100% set on joining and its what i want to do... My concerns are this... And sorry but its very hard to say so please dont be all freaking out on me and stuff.
Im male and im joining the royal navy and i have read up on the status of the situation within the british navy but i want to know if it is an issue... Should i keep it to myself that i'am gay? will it affect me and how im treated by people. Im not a very camp or gay acting guy however i still need to know what its going to be like, and if telling people close to me my friends that i make in the navy is a wise thing to do.
Please someone give me advice or just point me in the right direction as im lost whether to tell people the truth when they ask if im single or have a girlfriend or do i tell them im gay. There is only so long i can keep saying its none of your business...
Please help.
Posted: Fri 20 Feb, 2004 9:01 am
by Archie
Hi Clueless, and I doubt if you are, the navy has more brownies than M and S has coathangers, you'll be in your element but you already know that. As a fisherman you couldn't catch a cold.

Posted: Fri 20 Feb, 2004 7:58 pm
by Clueless
Phew thanks i had myself kept awake at nights over this i did read news stories on the bbc website about there being lots of gay men serving in the navy however i wasnt sure if it was still applicable seeing as the news article was 4 - 5 years old.
Thanks for putting my mind to rest.
Posted: Sat 21 Feb, 2004 8:02 am
by CrouchmasterT
Archie wrote:the navy has more brownies than M and S has coathangers
Youve worried me now, should i be scared considering im straight

Posted: Sat 21 Feb, 2004 12:12 pm
by Bovie
Man, im worried too, im straight, will i fit in?
And converting to a brownie aint my kinda thing!
Posted: Sat 21 Feb, 2004 3:59 pm
by Clueless
Hahaha dont worry guys you are safe most gay men tend not to waste their time on straight men

Gay means happy
Posted: Mon 23 Feb, 2004 12:57 am
by PHIL
Yes if thats all your worried about join up! there plenty of things happening that will make you laugh like some lads masterbating in public and running through the dorms without a stitch on its great!
No one will bother their arse

about asking you.
You see the Royal Navy considers gay to be taboo but nearly everyone in there is gay anyway and no one cares...
You'll see plenty of things that make you think that their gay but everybodies just trying to be more outrageous and daring than the other matelot. Like mooning at the Wrens or getting a boner when the woman CPO was doing rounds or smacking someones arse raw in the shower. I done all of these things and I'm not gay... My advice son is go for it! I had a riot in the dorms.
PHIL

- As gay as yer like!

Posted: Tue 24 Feb, 2004 4:23 am
by Wholley
Clueless.
The US Navy has a policy of"Don't ask,don't tell"
Left over from the Clinton years.
If you decided on the USN,go straight(Sorry) to the Virginia Naval Base,or Pearl Harbor where the weather is less inclement.
Wholley.

Keep it shut!
Posted: Sun 04 Apr, 2004 9:43 am
by Matlow
Id keep it to yourself mate,especially during phase1!There is this image that everyone in the navy is gay,believe me completly untrue.Take my advice,keep quiet about it and you cant go wrong.Get out of raleigh first before you even think about thinking!
Posted: Tue 27 Apr, 2004 5:42 pm
by Doc
Nowt wrong with being gay in the Navy, at my medical in Raleigh I was diagnosed as lesbian and sent on my merry way!
Posted: Fri 07 May, 2004 5:42 pm
by flo
When i was a wren doing basic at Raleigh, there were a few females who wore comfortable shoes. Everyone knew but no-one bothered. A directive came through only recently that all substansive partners whether it be male or female will be entitled to the same pension rights etc as if they were a married hetrosexual couple. The Forces are moving in the right direction but it will take time and you can look at the fact that you will be one of the first to pass out as a gay sailor and look back in years to come when there are no prejudice and say i helped make it what it is now. But on the jovial side of things
STAY AWAY FROM ROYAL THEY ARE SECRET TRANSVESTITES AND ALWAYS WEARING DRESSES. 
Best of luck in what you decide.
Posted: Fri 07 May, 2004 5:58 pm
by Dolly Gray
Flo
Whats secret transvestite is this a new thing in today's Corps
Comment by Royal when getting made up by missus for a gronks runs ashore 'I must stop doing this I/m starting to look like me mum'
D
Posted: Fri 07 May, 2004 5:58 pm
by Dolly Gray
Flo
Whats secret transvestite is this a new thing in today's Corps
Comment by Royal when getting made up by missus for a gronks runs ashore 'I must stop doing this I/m starting to look like me mum'
D
Posted: Fri 07 May, 2004 6:32 pm
by Dolly Gray
Clueless
Take the advice given of going in keeping your mouth shut and do the best you can.
In my time in the Corps (quite a long time) the actual number of serving gays I knew and had to work with could be counted on one hand. the sixth and seventh were two guys I served with and would have been the last people I would have said were gay and I only found out about them after I left the Corps, but that did not change my view to them both being very professional marines. There was probably a more but never known to me.
The daft thing being that if I was to mention the names of the guys I knew here most of the old & bold would have the same list
The base line was as long as they kept themselves to themselves there was no problem. The one place gays do go wrong was forgetting the rules, crossing their boundary and doing something stupid when they came back on board after a few wets. One guy in particular I served with for 2 years on a frigate never once stepped out of line with Jack or the detachment, one night back in Stonehouse he gets pissed and ends up getting his ticket.
So common dog must rule and you let your brain rule what you do, not your di*k
Another thing what you must not do is take Jack and Royals attitude to sex and wearing strange rigs as a come on or if someone slaps your arse in the shower that he fancies you - strange people strange habits!
Dolly