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America wants us to give back the Falkland islands
Posted: Wed 11 Jun, 2003 7:52 pm
by COMBAT WOMBAT
I heard in the news today, that America supports call for Britain to enter into negotiations with Argentina to give them back the Falkland Islands.
As far i as i've always known, the islands have been ours since the Brits found it uninhabited and settled there, and i don't think we ever took it them from the Argies, thepeople living there are British, they want to stay British and our troops have died proteting them.
Please anybody tell me of any info on the Argies claim to them, a bit of detail on how we came to have the islands and your thoughts on America's back stabbing!
it is just reassuring to know that the official British statement after the war in '82 was we would never give up the islands, and the government's latest response to America's plea was 'there will be no negotiations'
DAMN STRAIGHT
Posted: Wed 11 Jun, 2003 8:20 pm
by peter johnson
Err we lost em some while ago to the Argies/spanis many many years ago, and geuss who took em back the Americans, and handed them back to the UK!!!
Posted: Wed 11 Jun, 2003 8:59 pm
by El Prez
Has anybody enquired of the mood of the islanders in this. Or is it too obvious. The yanks should get their own patch in order before resorting to International give aways.

Posted: Wed 11 Jun, 2003 10:59 pm
by Bigwig
Who do americans think they are to ask us to do that, the dumbf***s. The answer is simple....so......and no

I'am not jokeing when I say that some yanks seriously think they rule the world and what the say goes.
Do they want friendship with Britain or not?
Have any of you 'old-timers' or any 1 who has visited USA of recent here ever encounted this attitude when with yanks ? or is it not the case with most americans?

Posted: Wed 11 Jun, 2003 11:01 pm
by Tab
Well what about America giving back Porto Rico which it is still hanging onto since the the war with Spain at the end of 19th Century. It has not allowed it to become a State, they have to pay Taxes and serve in the American forces but they are not allowed a vote????
Posted: Wed 11 Jun, 2003 11:04 pm
by Josh
Give back the Falkland Islands...
...And I suppose the yanks of any ethnic origin other than that of a Native American are just gonna get up and bugger the north American continent off while we're all at it, yea?
Posted: Wed 11 Jun, 2003 11:33 pm
by TheCount
I'd like to give back the British Empire, enough of this...
Posted: Wed 11 Jun, 2003 11:48 pm
by may18
im not sure this is the US
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OAS backs Falklands claim
From correspondents in Santiago
June 11, 2003
THE 33rd General Assembly of the Organisation of American States (OAS) has passed a statement of solidarity with Argentina's claim to the Falkland Islands, over which it fought and lost a war with Britain in 1982.
The statement, passed by voice vote as the OAS wrapped up its meeting today, calls on Britain and Argentina to resume negotiations over the South Atlantic archipelago as soon as possible.
The talks should have as a goal "finding a peaceful solution to this protracted controversy," the resolution said.
The islands, known to Argentinians as the Malvinas, were occupied by Britain in 1832, despite Argentine protests.
The statement of solidarity was proposed at the OAS meeting by Argentine Deputy Foreign Minister Jorge Taiana and seconded by Brazil, Uruguay, Paraguay, Chile, Bolivia and many other delegations.
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Doesnt mention the USA?
Posted: Wed 11 Jun, 2003 11:52 pm
by TK421
Tab wrote:Well what about America giving back Porto Rico which it is still hanging onto since the the war with Spain at the end of 19th Century. It has not allowed it to become a State, they have to pay Taxes and serve in the American forces but they are not allowed a vote????
FALSE!
Hello, I was just lurking around the site when I saw this thread and thought I'd jump in.
Puerto Rico(not "Porto Rico") is not a colony. It is a commonwealth associated with the United States. They pay no federal taxes to Washington and they are ALLOWED to serve in the United States military not forced. From what I understand Australians are similarly allowed to serve in the British armed forces. They can become a state if they want to. Or they could vote for complete independance any time they choose. It's up to the people who live there. And, from what I understand, Puerto Rico has one of the highest voter turnouts in the world (something around 80%).
Is there a link to the story about the US allegedly urging Britain to hand over the Falkland to Argentina? Seems unlikely to me.

Posted: Thu 12 Jun, 2003 12:03 am
by Andy O'Pray
Bigwig, In answer to your question. It is not a general attitude of the American public. There are some extremely nice people in the States who, like ourselves, can't be held responsible for the policies of their administration.
Aye - Andy.

Posted: Thu 12 Jun, 2003 12:14 am
by may18
TK421 wrote:Tab wrote:Well what about America giving back Porto Rico which it is still hanging onto since the the war with Spain at the end of 19th Century. It has not allowed it to become a State, they have to pay Taxes and serve in the American forces but they are not allowed a vote????
FALSE!
Hello, I was just lurking around the site when I saw this thread and thought I'd jump in.
Puerto Rico(not "Porto Rico") is not a colony. It is a commonwealth associated with the United States. They pay no federal taxes to Washington and they are ALLOWED to serve in the United States military not forced. From what I understand Australians are similarly allowed to serve in the British armed forces. They can become a state if they want to. Or they could vote for complete independance any time they choose. It's up to the people who live there. And, from what I understand, Puerto Rico has one of the highest voter turnouts in the world (something around 80%).
Is there a link to the story about the US allegedly urging Britain to hand over the Falkland to Argentina? Seems unlikely to me.

i posted the story a few posts up babe. The aos has the usa as a member,
http://www.news.com.au/common/story_pag ... 02,00.html
Posted: Thu 12 Jun, 2003 12:57 am
by Andy O'Pray
Canada is also a member of the OAS, but until I search around I will not know how Canada voted on this issue. As I said previously, the citizens of a country can't be held responsible for the policies of their respective governments. If we disagree with our respective governments decisions, we get the chance to kick them out at the next election.
I will find out how Canada voted and if it is not to my satisfaction, I will fire off one of my shittys to those concerned.
Aye - Andy.

if you ask me
Posted: Thu 12 Jun, 2003 1:58 am
by Chris
If you ask me we should tell the argies to feck off they lost the war fair and square and if they want a re-match I'm sure we will win even easy-er this Time around
Re: if you ask me
Posted: Thu 12 Jun, 2003 2:07 am
by may18
Chris wrote:If you ask me we should tell the argies to feck off they lost the war fair and square and if they want a re-match I'm sure we will win even easy-er this Time around
the thing is, if they hadnt have invaded, they may have got the islands peacefully.
But, now i think it is something that just wont happen. Hundreds of lives were lost retaking the islands.
Posted: Thu 12 Jun, 2003 3:59 am
by spitz
Do they want friendship with Britain or not?
This is the states of ‘the Americas’ and not the good ‘ole U.S. of A., it's in their best interest that the Falklands stay British, where would they base all them B52’s and B2’s if the sh#t hits the fan in S. America or antarctica?
And, in the future, the U.S. should pay for the use of any aircraft carriers (oops islands) and other British ‘assets’ that it needs. I propose something along the lines of stripping the U.S. of all her assets in Britain, including real estate and property. U.S. investments in Europe to be sold off, and to make sure that Britain gets paid, one of HM ships should be dispatched to pick up the payment in U.S. gold.
The U.S. must also transfer all her scientific and technological secrets to the Britain Also, Britain should demanded leases on the islands of Guam, Hawaii, American Samoa and Puerto Rico for the setting up of British military and naval bases.
Now THAT is how you treat an ally.