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Service numbers

Posted: Sun 05 Oct, 2008 3:17 pm
by Paddysprat
A little help is needed please. We currently have a new student on campus who is saying he served in the Cheshires and on operations abroad. There are concerns about whether he is being lagit or not.

While watching the pointless BBC programme about bullying in the Army, the reporter had his number start 30. Does anyone know where service numbers are at the moment and when they jumped to the 3s.

I've not met the student as yet but will at some point. If I get into discussion with him I would like to see what he says when I drop the normal "GOTCHA" question.

My fathers number started 24...... back in '67 and mine started 2502... back in '93.

Anyne help? the first 3 or 4 digits of anyone who has been in since about 2003 would give me some kind of indication.

Many thanks

Posted: Sun 05 Oct, 2008 3:20 pm
by HCR
Yeah mate. New recruits service numbers are now starting with 30

Posted: Sun 05 Oct, 2008 5:31 pm
by Alfa
They started with 25 though around 2005 onwards so it's more likely to be closer to that than the 3's as I think they only started when the Army changed to JPA (or whatever it's called).

Posted: Sun 05 Oct, 2008 5:35 pm
by Hands on
The new guys we are getting are 30.

Posted: Sun 05 Oct, 2008 7:12 pm
by HCR
Alfa said
They started with 25 though around 2005 onwards so it's more likely to be closer to that than the 3's as I think they only started when the Army changed to JPA (or whatever it's called).
They have been starting with 25 since the early 1990's mate. I dont know why they have gone from 25 to 30 instead of 26 but they have. Ive heard of new lads with 30 as the start of there service number.

But hey who really gives a fark

As for JPA dont get me started. Still waiting for LSSA from months ago. The old system would of had it nipped by now

Posted: Sun 05 Oct, 2008 7:22 pm
by English Rose
HCR wrote:
As for JPA dont get me started. Still waiting for LSSA from months ago. The old system would of had it nipped by now
JPA is an arse :evil:

Posted: Sun 05 Oct, 2008 7:55 pm
by Hyperlithe
I'm still waiting for language pay from June 2007...
:evil:
Am not holding my breath.

Posted: Sun 05 Oct, 2008 10:26 pm
by Alfa
HCR wrote:They have been starting with 25 since the early 1990's mate. I dont know why they have gone from 25 to 30 instead of 26 but they have. Ive heard of new lads with 30 as the start of there service number.
Yeah, understood, but all I meant was if the guy is genuine then his service number would be 25 rather than 30 since if he'd served and been on ops then he wouldn't have been a new recruit. I got my service number in 2005, which is why I suggested if he'd joined in 2003 it'd be likely to be close to mine.

Posted: Sun 05 Oct, 2008 10:55 pm
by HCR
Alfa
Yeah, understood, but all I meant was if the guy is genuine then his service number would be 25 rather than 30 since if he'd served and been on ops then he wouldn't have been a new recruit. I got my service number in 2005, which is why I suggested if he'd joined in 2003 it'd be likely to be close to mine.
I see where your coming from now mate. Your right if he had been in long enough to of been on Operational tours then yes he would not be a 30.

Posted: Mon 06 Oct, 2008 10:11 am
by Paddysprat
Cheers for all that guys. Like I say, I've not met this student yet and he may well be above board. However, from what I've heard he's saying some suspect things.

Something else you maybe able to help me with. Did the Cheshires ever do a tour of Afghanistan before they were amalgamated? From what I have found (which is very little) I believe they never did.

Posted: Wed 08 Oct, 2008 11:20 am
by misdameaner
Paddysprat wrote:Cheers for all that guys. Like I say, I've not met this student yet and he may well be above board. However, from what I've heard he's saying some suspect things.

Something else you maybe able to help me with. Did the Cheshires ever do a tour of Afghanistan before they were amalgamated? From what I have found (which is very little) I believe they never did.
They certainly did a tour on 'Telic', but as for 'ghaners', I dont think so.
Stands back and awaits to be corrected!

Re: Service numbers

Posted: Wed 08 Oct, 2008 3:22 pm
by JayBuckley
Paddysprat wrote:A little help is needed please. We currently have a new student on campus who is saying he served in the Cheshires and on operations abroad. There are concerns about whether he is being lagit or not.

While watching the pointless BBC programme about bullying in the Army, the reporter had his number start 30. Does anyone know where service numbers are at the moment and when they jumped to the 3s.

I've not met the student as yet but will at some point. If I get into discussion with him I would like to see what he says when I drop the normal "GOTCHA" question.

My fathers number started 24...... back in '67 and mine started 2502... back in '93.

Anyne help? the first 3 or 4 digits of anyone who has been in since about 2003 would give me some kind of indication.

Many thanks
Well the numbers at the moment all start with 300 but you will have to get some else to say when they started at 300.

Posted: Thu 09 Oct, 2008 11:53 pm
by Tab
In the mid 1950's they started with 231....................

Posted: Fri 10 Oct, 2008 5:32 pm
by rockape34
Army Numbers - Other Ranks present system started in 1950:

A Rough Guide - 1950 to date

Army Number Date of Issue

22000000 to 22199408 Until October 1950
22199409 to 22460786 Until February 1951
22460787 to 22562759 Until July 1951
22562760 to 23052500 Until June 1955
23052501 to 23188252 Until October 1955
23188253 to 23479123 Until May 1956
23479124 to 23845071 Until October 1960
The final intake of National Servicemen was on 31st December 1960. The last National Servicemen left the Army in 1963 with 23819209 Private Fred Turner, of The Army Catering Corps, attached 13th/18th The Royal Hussars, being the final conscript discharged on 7th May 1963.
23845072 to 23969619 Until April 1964
23969620 to 24033484 Until October 1964
24033485 to 24057159 Until April 1965
24057160 to 24076468 Until December 1966
24076469 to 24182226 Until April 1969
24182227 to 24262662 Until September 1971
24262663 to 24302033 Until September 1972
24302034 to 24315610 Until January 1973
24315611 to 24322198 Until February 1973
24322199 to 24355527 Until August 1974
24355528 to 24369281 Until September 1975
24369282 to 24475540 Until May 1978
24475541 to 24520161 Until March 1979
24520162 to 24579860 Until August 1980
24579861 to 24587118 Until March 1981
24587119 to 24753060 Until December 1985
24753061 to 24854044 Until November 1988
24854045 to 25012465 Until January 1992
25012466 to 25027818 Until July 1993
25027819 to 25065603 Until July 1997
25065604 to 25130600 Until February 2001
25130601 to 25136865 Until August 2001
25136866 to 25139703 August 2001
25139704 to 252xxxxx to March 2007

There may be a slight overlap in some cases as individual Manning & Records Offices were allocated numbers in blocks.

Thus a lower number may post date a higher number.

From Apr 2007 new tri service all ranks system thanks to JPA starting at 30000001

More HERE