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When that idiot Des Browne said that the UK involvment in Helmand would pass without a shot been fired i bet he never thought just how wrong he would be!

AMMUNITION

.50cal (198,000 rounds)
5.56mm (2,370,400 rounds)
7.62mm (2,233,800 rounds)
9mm (170,000 rounds)
81mm mortar (38,868 rounds)
105mm (4,430 shells

http://www.mod.uk/DefenceInternet/Defen ... OnTime.htm

F**king Idiot!



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That report pisses me off.

The osprey body armour MAY take multiple hits, BUT its the plate that takes the hit, not the green soft armour underneath. Now, when you take away the soft armour and just wear the plates it is an effective bullet stopper AND a cooler option in 50 degree heat. WHY are people STILL singing this flawed piece of kit's praises. Its too hot for the operational environment we are working in, hence the reason why everyone in PF has got their own Plate carriers which just takes the plates and has stripped the green soft armour totally down so we only put it on when we go into high threat areas.

I feel for the lads doing 12 hour foot patrols in the green zone in the middle of the day with the osprey on. I suppose you might get used to it, but i refuse to wear the shit.

Anyone else think the osprey sucks? The plates are good, if not a bit heavy but they stop multiple hits so i can accept the weight. But the green soft armour is just the same as the old COMBAT BODY WARMER.

davo141 wrote:
9mm (170,000 rounds)

Who fires 9mm out there??? What a waste of money.

davo141 wrote:
9mm (170,000 rounds)


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Para beat me to it. What the hell have 170,000 9 mil rounds been fired at? I can't believe there is that much CQB going on. And I didn't think the Sterling SMG was still in use

Must be boredam killing in the FOBs, tin can shoot!

Greenronnie wrote:Must be boredam killing in the FOBs, tin can shoot!

Either that or rats or whatever else is crawling around in there with them

Not a clue where they can use that many! SF use the MP5 which is 9mm i believe but not that many surely in a theatre such as Afghan, i'd have totally guessed they'd have gone for something of a bigger caliber...

Still a lot more than the '0' rounds Des Goon Predicted....tit

We should be issued atleast a .40 for out there.

9mm is pathetic.

davo141 wrote:Not a clue where they can use that many! SF use the MP5 which is 9mm i believe but not that many surely in a theatre such as Afghan, i'd have totally guessed they'd have gone for something of a bigger caliber...

Still a lot more than the '0' rounds Des Goon Predicted....tit

I was going to ask, 'cos I wasn't sure if anyone had HK's out there.

It was John Reid, but it might as well be Des Browne, he's as much a useless gimp as his predecessor.

SF use C8's which is 5.56 and are moving away from that to 7.62 (cant remember the name of the actual weapon system) but it has a better stopping power!