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Posted: Fri 18 May, 2007 10:44 pm
by Paratrooper01
ARnY wrote:Hey im new on here erm just got a few questions really recently i was with drawn from my TA cadre due to critial ligament damage and i was just wondring what sort of training i can do whilst being injured, because im realy skinny and found it hard during my cadre and was wondering if anyone can offer advice.
cheers
regards
arny
Seeing as your "realy skinny" i would advise pullups. Get developing those guns.
On a serious note, swimming is a good start. 4 times a week if you can at least. And increase the time you swim. start at 20 minutes and every week add 10 minutes to your swim time. try to do 45 lengths in 30 minutes in a 25meter pool. Once your injury gets a bit better start cycling. Once you have fully recovered start running again, but not a moment before.

Posted: Sun 20 May, 2007 9:42 pm
by ARnY
alright cheers iv been doing weights to try and build upper body strength but doesnt seem of feel like im making improvents

Posted: Mon 21 May, 2007 7:21 pm
by AJtothemax
ARnY wrote:alright cheers iv been doing weights to try and build upper body strength but doesnt seem of feel like im making improvents

Just crack on with what you need to be doing mate. Smash out those press-ups, pull-ups, tricep-dips etc. The development will happen sooner or later, it has to - it if it doesnt, then the only reason has to be medical or that you aren't trying hard enough. I dont mean to sound like a tosser when i say that, im saying it in the nicest way possible. Just keep trying and ttrying with them, even when you think you cant get even one more rep out, just do it no matter how much your arms shake and turn to jelly, just do it until they fail. Then you know you're working hard
One added reason i would drop the weights is that fact that they are specifically designed to make sure that you are tearing the muscle fibres (thats not a bad thing by the way), they will take longer to grow back bigger and stronger.
Real strength is being able to support your own body weight ok mate. Thats not said in an arrogant way, but for your goals, real strength is this. You look at how many people who just lift weights and power lifters and bodybuilders who cant do many pull-ups or press-ups without getting tired as someone who does them all the time. Thats because their strength is of a different nesessity. Keep on those press-ups, pull-ups, tricep dips, sit ups, etc and you'll get stronger eventually ok.
All the best.
Posted: Mon 21 May, 2007 10:40 pm
by ARnY
ah right cool cheers for the tip mate erm any tips of getting more reps on push ups coz each set i can only manage about 20 odd and then its a struggle which aint realy good for the paras

cheers for the advice so far tho

Posted: Mon 21 May, 2007 11:15 pm
by tom163
Alrite ArNY im in exactly the same possition as you mate currently training for the Paras and having problems with my press ups. The other day a man told me to try the following method
pyramid system. eg
30 pressups
30 sit ups
30 squat thrusts
25 pressups
25 sit ups
25 squat thrusts
20 pressups
20 sit ups
20 squat thrusts
then 15 of each, then 10 then 5.
That is only an example youll have to replace the numbers with your own like 20 at the top working down. Im trying this method at the min and i seems to be going ok. Give it a try and let me know how it going for you

Hope this helps
Posted: Tue 22 May, 2007 2:23 pm
by ARnY
right seems fair lol do you do that 3 times a day or just that pyramid for the day?
i just did that before in school and at first it seems good but as i got down to 10 push ups me arms started to feel like jelly and shaking alot
Posted: Tue 22 May, 2007 6:01 pm
by tom163
I do that 2 times a day one in morning and one in afternoon or nite and the feeling in your arms is normal your just pushing urself harder than before itl go soon mate.

Posted: Tue 22 May, 2007 6:52 pm
by ARnY
sounds good to me cheers mate. right i'l try and crack on twice a day or even possibly 3 times a day since theres nothing wrong in a little competition :p lol
Posted: Tue 22 May, 2007 7:20 pm
by tom163
Just do as many sets as your comfortable with to start with and build on that. Let me know how u get on with technique mate

Posted: Tue 22 May, 2007 7:38 pm
by ARnY
no probs mate and again cheers for the advice now lets hope im fully healed before my next cadre

Posted: Tue 12 Jun, 2007 3:06 pm
by James123
ARnY wrote:ah right cool cheers for the tip mate erm any tips of getting more reps on push ups coz each set i can only manage about 20 odd and then its a struggle which aint realy good for the paras

cheers for the advice so far tho

Check out Pavel Tsatsouline book the 'Naked Warrior' and the Naked Warrior section in his book 'Beyond Body Building'. I downloaded both of them off LimeWire because they are both way overpriced. He gives great ways of increasing your total reps.
Remeber to tense your whole body because its then easier to move and lift, its what gymnasts do. What I find to help most is to tense your lats (pull down your shoulders) one good way to this is to imagine you are snapping a broom on the way up of the push up, twist your forearms outwards to inwards like you would after you have just snapped it. This makes it alot easier on the shoulders. Also grip and push into the floor when you start having trouble, it should feel like their is a burst of energy up your arm. Also perfom rep ladders not pyramids.
Posted: Tue 12 Jun, 2007 8:09 pm
by ARnY
Also grip and push into the floor when you start having trouble, it should feel like their is a burst of energy up your arm. Also perfom rep ladders not pyramids.[/quote]
whats the difference? is it instead of performing from a high rep to a low rep you are starting from low reps and build up on to higher reps?