Padre,
you question covers a huge range of answers!
ok lets try........the Navy SEALs are the US NAVY's answer to everone elses (i.e US Army, Air Force and Marine Corps) specialist units.
They are trained in both land and sea warfare to include, recon, covert and subversive actions, the can operate as small teams or as part of a larger force for more over actions. They are HALO, HAHO , SCUBA, Ranger school (some are) demolitions, weapons, CQB and more qualified.
Some things the SEAL's have done, include jungle warfare (vietnam) urban warefare (somolia, blackhawk down, dont believe the film, SEAL's were there as well as Delta and rangers as were USAF CCT's and PJ's)
Airfield assults (SEAL's took the airport in Panama)
The SEAL's were active throught the 90's inserting into the balkans to perform various tasks, as BDA, STA, FAC etc etc
The SEAL's do train with and exchange with the SBS, as well as SAS and other foriegn SF teams.
There are a number of SEAL teams, and each team (although all are fully qualified), has an area of speciality, kinda like SAS has Air troop, mob troop etc
SEAL training is more muscle/strength training than UKSF training as endurance isnt such a priority in the US as they have air support all the time. Also alot of water work requires strength, but saying that most SEAL's could run as fast and as far as any other SF guys you wanna pick.
Finally .........yes SEAL's will do hostage rescue, although this is primarly DELTA's purpose for being, but again both may work together.
if this is no good PM me with a direct question, and i'll try to help you
john
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SEALs have a unit called DEVGRU as Iv just mentioned that is responsible for all CT operations in the maritime environment, DELTA is more land-based but im sure they are just about equal to each other although SEALs obviously specialise in maritime operations.
Anyways whats the fuss? Us Brits are the best
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URNU-Student.SEALS do have funny initials like DEVGRU. However that is too brief. When I served with SEAL Team 2, I was part of COMSPECWARGRU2 !! Of which Seal Team 2 was only a small part.
I don't think that DEVGRU would qualify!! The Yanks like long initial groups!!
If you know more than I do then please enlighten me.
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http://www.specialoperations.com/Navy/NSWDG/profile.htm
The Naval Special Warfare Development Group (formerly known as MOB 6, SEAL Team SIX, and MARESFAC) based at Dam Neck, Virginia, is responsible for U.S. counterterrorist operations in the maritime environment. Its origin can be traced to the aftermath of the failed 1980 attempted to rescue American hostages at the Iranian Embassy (Operation Eagle Claw). Prior to this, the SEALs had already begun CT training, including all 12 platoons in SEAL Team One on the West Coast. On the East Coast, however, elements of the SEAL Team Two had taken the issue one step farther. They formed a dedicated two-platoon group known as "MOB Six" (short for Mobility Six) in anticipation of a maritime scenario requiring a CT response and had begun training (including the development of advanced tactics such as "fast roping") to that end. Yet, as was the case with the US Army's initial CT unit - Blue Light - and Delta Force, only one group was needed and could be recognized as official. With the formal creation of SEAL Team Six (a name selected primarily to confuse Soviet intelligence as to the number of SEAL Teams in operation) in October1980, MOB Six was demobilized. A large number of members, however, including the former MOB Six commander, were asked to join the fledgling group. With prior experience from these operators, aggressive leadership, and an accelerated training program, SEAL Team Six was declared mission-ready just six months later.
Training for Six was conducted throughout the United States and abroad, both on military and civilian facilities on an extremely accelerated schedule. Exchange programs and joint trainings were expanded with the more experienced international teams such as Germany's GSG-9, Great Britain's Special Boat Squadrons (SBS), and France's combat divers. In all cases, emphasis was placed on realism in training, in accordance with the "Train as you Fight, Fight as you Train" philosophy popular amongst most of the world's leading special operations and CT units. Six participated in a number of operations, both overt and covert, throughout the 1980's (see list at the end of this section) before being revamped and renamed. The reasons for this transformation are vague, however the primary factor cited has been the need for the unit to evolved out of a poor reputation of the group within the Navy. A great deal of controversy was generated due to charges of misappropriation of funds and equipment by team members, as well as the conviction of unit founder Cdr. Richard Marcinko on charges of conspiracy, conflict of interest, making false claims against the government, and bribery. He was sentenced to nearly two years in a Federal penitentiary in addition to being forced to pay a $10,000 fine. Despite this turn of events, Marcinko is still revered in some SEAL circles as an almost mythical figure. This status was attained, in no small part, to a best selling-book series which centers around fictional maritime special operations and counterterrorism.
Soon after the departure of Cdr. Marcinko, the unit's name "SEAL Team Six" was changed to "DevGroup" but only after they decided that the name MARESFAC (pronounced Mariz-fack) was just not a reasonable cover. MARESFAC stood for Marine Research Facility. This name (MARESFAC) was used for a short time, but the reality of the situation soon caused planners to rethink their OPSEC. Given the obviously (visibly) high level of physical conditioning of the men entering and leaving the facility, it was soon determined that such a cover was not reasonable. In short, it was decided that not even a casual observer would believe that such well-muscled and trim men could possibly make up the bulk of the scientific research facility staff. For this reason, it was soon changed to the more plausible (if equally vague) DevGroup for Special Weapons and Tactics Development Group.
The US government has described the Naval Special Warfare Development Group as having been established to oversee development of NSW tactics, equipment, and techniques. This, of course, is only partly true. The unit is under the direct command of NAVSPECWARCOM, however it is also a component of Joint Special Operations Command (JSOC - Pope AFB, North Carolina), along with other CT units such as Delta Force and the 160th Special Operations Aviation Regiment (SOAR). It was rumored that DEVGRU maintained a small number of HH-60 helicopters, but the majority of aviation requirements are provided by the 160th SOAR, especially in support of ship assaults, which frequently make use of the small MH-6 "Little Bird" (operated exclusively by the 160th).
The Naval Special Warfare Development Group (formerly known as MOB 6, SEAL Team SIX, and MARESFAC) based at Dam Neck, Virginia, is responsible for U.S. counterterrorist operations in the maritime environment. Its origin can be traced to the aftermath of the failed 1980 attempted to rescue American hostages at the Iranian Embassy (Operation Eagle Claw). Prior to this, the SEALs had already begun CT training, including all 12 platoons in SEAL Team One on the West Coast. On the East Coast, however, elements of the SEAL Team Two had taken the issue one step farther. They formed a dedicated two-platoon group known as "MOB Six" (short for Mobility Six) in anticipation of a maritime scenario requiring a CT response and had begun training (including the development of advanced tactics such as "fast roping") to that end. Yet, as was the case with the US Army's initial CT unit - Blue Light - and Delta Force, only one group was needed and could be recognized as official. With the formal creation of SEAL Team Six (a name selected primarily to confuse Soviet intelligence as to the number of SEAL Teams in operation) in October1980, MOB Six was demobilized. A large number of members, however, including the former MOB Six commander, were asked to join the fledgling group. With prior experience from these operators, aggressive leadership, and an accelerated training program, SEAL Team Six was declared mission-ready just six months later.
Training for Six was conducted throughout the United States and abroad, both on military and civilian facilities on an extremely accelerated schedule. Exchange programs and joint trainings were expanded with the more experienced international teams such as Germany's GSG-9, Great Britain's Special Boat Squadrons (SBS), and France's combat divers. In all cases, emphasis was placed on realism in training, in accordance with the "Train as you Fight, Fight as you Train" philosophy popular amongst most of the world's leading special operations and CT units. Six participated in a number of operations, both overt and covert, throughout the 1980's (see list at the end of this section) before being revamped and renamed. The reasons for this transformation are vague, however the primary factor cited has been the need for the unit to evolved out of a poor reputation of the group within the Navy. A great deal of controversy was generated due to charges of misappropriation of funds and equipment by team members, as well as the conviction of unit founder Cdr. Richard Marcinko on charges of conspiracy, conflict of interest, making false claims against the government, and bribery. He was sentenced to nearly two years in a Federal penitentiary in addition to being forced to pay a $10,000 fine. Despite this turn of events, Marcinko is still revered in some SEAL circles as an almost mythical figure. This status was attained, in no small part, to a best selling-book series which centers around fictional maritime special operations and counterterrorism.
Soon after the departure of Cdr. Marcinko, the unit's name "SEAL Team Six" was changed to "DevGroup" but only after they decided that the name MARESFAC (pronounced Mariz-fack) was just not a reasonable cover. MARESFAC stood for Marine Research Facility. This name (MARESFAC) was used for a short time, but the reality of the situation soon caused planners to rethink their OPSEC. Given the obviously (visibly) high level of physical conditioning of the men entering and leaving the facility, it was soon determined that such a cover was not reasonable. In short, it was decided that not even a casual observer would believe that such well-muscled and trim men could possibly make up the bulk of the scientific research facility staff. For this reason, it was soon changed to the more plausible (if equally vague) DevGroup for Special Weapons and Tactics Development Group.
The US government has described the Naval Special Warfare Development Group as having been established to oversee development of NSW tactics, equipment, and techniques. This, of course, is only partly true. The unit is under the direct command of NAVSPECWARCOM, however it is also a component of Joint Special Operations Command (JSOC - Pope AFB, North Carolina), along with other CT units such as Delta Force and the 160th Special Operations Aviation Regiment (SOAR). It was rumored that DEVGRU maintained a small number of HH-60 helicopters, but the majority of aviation requirements are provided by the 160th SOAR, especially in support of ship assaults, which frequently make use of the small MH-6 "Little Bird" (operated exclusively by the 160th).
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URNU-Student,
Where did you find that narrative? Maybe a newspaper article or magazine? It does sound very plausible - BUT - it doesn't sound anything like the real thing!!
I was there in 1980 serving with Seal Team Two. (I don't think that is a secret!!)
NAVSPECWARGRU2 of which Seal Team 2 and Seal Team 6 were a part as well as other elements, were based at Little Creek Amphibious Base near Virginia Beach - not Dam Neck! (I don't even recognise the name!)
I've never heard of MOB 6.
Seal Team 6 arose out of the increasing awareness of terrorism and the need for the US to have a counter measure.
I also have to tell you that they never had a poor reputation within the Navy - as you state. They are very well thought of - and still are.
I can't really comment on what training they do these days as I left in 1982.
What I can say is that Rick Marcinko is venerated by all Seal Teams. He may or may not be guilty of misappropriation of funds - BUT he put the SEAL Team on the map.
Also the time scale is wrong. Rick Marcinko left the Navy well before 1980. Possibly because he was such a maverick, as to be quite good at what he did.
Sneaky
Where did you find that narrative? Maybe a newspaper article or magazine? It does sound very plausible - BUT - it doesn't sound anything like the real thing!!
I was there in 1980 serving with Seal Team Two. (I don't think that is a secret!!)
NAVSPECWARGRU2 of which Seal Team 2 and Seal Team 6 were a part as well as other elements, were based at Little Creek Amphibious Base near Virginia Beach - not Dam Neck! (I don't even recognise the name!)
I've never heard of MOB 6.
Seal Team 6 arose out of the increasing awareness of terrorism and the need for the US to have a counter measure.
I also have to tell you that they never had a poor reputation within the Navy - as you state. They are very well thought of - and still are.
I can't really comment on what training they do these days as I left in 1982.
What I can say is that Rick Marcinko is venerated by all Seal Teams. He may or may not be guilty of misappropriation of funds - BUT he put the SEAL Team on the map.
Also the time scale is wrong. Rick Marcinko left the Navy well before 1980. Possibly because he was such a maverick, as to be quite good at what he did.
Sneaky
Former RM of 23 years.
Padre
You may think about going back a ways into YOUR subject and read some of the books posted or better yet...do a search for all the SEAL information (a ton of it) online and newer books as well.
This is not the only place in the world to find what you are after
and you are in fact online...so you have that and books are avb. to checkout or buy............................................Out
You may think about going back a ways into YOUR subject and read some of the books posted or better yet...do a search for all the SEAL information (a ton of it) online and newer books as well.
This is not the only place in the world to find what you are after
and you are in fact online...so you have that and books are avb. to checkout or buy............................................Out
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I copied and pasted it from www.specialoperations.com, also I didnt state they had a poor reputation.sneaky beaky wrote:URNU-Student,
Where did you find that narrative? Maybe a newspaper article or magazine? It does sound very plausible - BUT - it doesn't sound anything like the real thing!!
I was there in 1980 serving with Seal Team Two. (I don't think that is a secret!!)
NAVSPECWARGRU2 of which Seal Team 2 and Seal Team 6 were a part as well as other elements, were based at Little Creek Amphibious Base near Virginia Beach - not Dam Neck! (I don't even recognise the name!)
I've never heard of MOB 6.
Seal Team 6 arose out of the increasing awareness of terrorism and the need for the US to have a counter measure.
I also have to tell you that they never had a poor reputation within the Navy - as you state. They are very well thought of - and still are.
I can't really comment on what training they do these days as I left in 1982.
What I can say is that Rick Marcinko is venerated by all Seal Teams. He may or may not be guilty of misappropriation of funds - BUT he put the SEAL Team on the map.
Also the time scale is wrong. Rick Marcinko left the Navy well before 1980. Possibly because he was such a maverick, as to be quite good at what he did.
Sneaky
My THANKS to sneaky beaky for his last post...It very well shows the fact and fiction online. A point for Padre to keep in mind and do HIS best research for FACT. PM sneaky beaky as requested...As for SEAL books again...First SEAL Roy Boehm
and Richard Marcinko's first book.
It's not very wise (as sneaky beaky pointed out) to put a man or unit down on misinformation..Read the books first...PM the guy that knows. It's not myself...but we did some cross training with SEALs in the early 1960's also with Roy and gang.
Both were asked to do a job no one wanted...and they did it. Just stay to the FACTS and find both men and units as (you fill in the blanks).
and Richard Marcinko's first book.
It's not very wise (as sneaky beaky pointed out) to put a man or unit down on misinformation..Read the books first...PM the guy that knows. It's not myself...but we did some cross training with SEALs in the early 1960's also with Roy and gang.
Both were asked to do a job no one wanted...and they did it. Just stay to the FACTS and find both men and units as (you fill in the blanks).
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URNU-Student
I have just looked at the web site that you pasted your article from.
It does sound plausible. I also accept that YOU did not say that the SEAL Teams were not well thought of - the article said that.
I just wonder if that site is an "official site" or one set up by someone else, who does not have official information.
I was with SEAL Team 2 from June 1979 to June 1981. I think I would have heard about these things even though I was an Alien!!
Sneaky
I have just looked at the web site that you pasted your article from.
It does sound plausible. I also accept that YOU did not say that the SEAL Teams were not well thought of - the article said that.
I just wonder if that site is an "official site" or one set up by someone else, who does not have official information.
I was with SEAL Team 2 from June 1979 to June 1981. I think I would have heard about these things even though I was an Alien!!
Sneaky
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