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themattmeister wrote:I know now that it helps not to think of the big picture e.g when getting beasted on bottom field just take it one sprint/obstacle at a time, rather like you would do on a hard run you would take it a lampost at a time, as soon as you start thinking about all the other stuff the seed of doubt starts to grow and when things go wrong it'll just get worse.

I suppose that is PMA really.

thats true as well, just living one day at a time is the way to go, you will worry if you think to far ahead, ive ran into problems like that, but quickly figured them out.

Artist wrote: The week before the same blokes had done a six mile speed march in under fortyfive minutes as a troop....................

'Speed march'?!?

Otherwise known as RUNNING???!!! Please tell me that was without kit!

Intro2Pete

With kit. 35 pounds of fighting order plus one SLR. In denims, denim jacket, boots (DMS).

You run on the flat and down hills. Quickmarch up hills. You have to do a mile every ten minutes in order to pass every speedmarch you do. OK?

One of the Commando tests in the seventies was called the eighty minute double. You carried the same kit but doubled for the entire eighty minutes. To me that was the hardest Commando test of all as when you came back to CTCRM you ran down to the Lower Field and ran up and down it until you had done eighty minutes. Twas soul destroying as none of us knew how long we had been running as then you were not allowed to wear a watch whilst in training.

As it was the Troop were also carrying their bergans that day on Dartmoor. Plus radios, Charlie G, 51mm Mortar, GPMGs (one per section)
It was not a cakewalk, but thats what you have to carry when in a unit so get used to it. These days it will be an SA80, not an SLR but it's still a fair bit of weight even with the Gucci kit the blokes use these days.

Foxtrotgolf, i like your attitude mate, your in the same boat as me

[quote="Artist"]Intro2Pete

With kit. 35 pounds of fighting order plus one SLR. In denims, denim jacket, boots (DMS).

You run on the flat and down hills. Quickmarch up hills. You have to do a mile every ten minutes in order to pass every speedmarch you do. OK?

One of the Commando tests in the seventies was called the eighty minute double. You carried the same kit but doubled for the entire eighty minutes. To me that was the hardest Commando test of all as when you came back to CTCRM you ran down to the Lower Field and ran up and down it until you had done eighty minutes. Twas soul destroying as none of us knew how long we had been running as then you were not allowed to wear a watch whilst in training.quote]

Sweet lord! eighty minutes. I always thought that old school RM training was toughest but this is...........beyond. All I can say, I'm looking forward to training.

One of the Commando tests in the seventies was called the eighty minute double.

Sounds like fun.


Rich.

whoa 80 mins, i remember my dad telling me that a marines officer came to one of the RAF bases when he was in the regiment and anyone who didnt keep pace with him over a 10 mile run wouold be in for it. They certainly were, they got beasted through hill training from 1945 to 0430 continuously running up and down this one hill. He said they were just completely mean back then. By the way, that was with webbing and kit on. not a full weight but still, hard enough huh?

p.s glad my dad werent one of the penguins!!!

RGJ-Rifleman

Artist wrote:Intro2Pete

With kit. 35 pounds of fighting order plus one SLR. In denims, denim jacket, boots (DMS).

You run on the flat and down hills. Quickmarch up hills. You have to do a mile every ten minutes in order to pass every speedmarch you do. OK?

yes, fine thanks...I wasn't criticising or questioning, just expressing surprise at the pace of a speed march. Is that 'OK'?

So was that particular speed march a one off, or the usual pace for a speed march? Because that would have been a mile every 7mins30, a tad quicker than every 10 minutes..... I'll be quite chuffed when I can RUN 6 miles in under 45 mins, let alone 'speed march' it with kit!

I find myself a fan of long distance. Ran 8 miles the other day, finshed them in 53.12, I aimed to get below 53. . Oh well, my training is producing improvements very quickly. Surprized actually.

Felias wrote:I find myself a fan of lond distance. Ran 8 miles the other day, fnished them in 53.12, I aimed to get below 53. . Oh well, my training is producing improvements very quickly. Surprized actually.

its true if you train properly you get results faster then you'd think

Are Marines still as'mean' as they were back when artist was serving then.

p.s sorry if im asking an obvious question but what does 'double' mean.

"Double time," running/jogging. Although, it would be fun what "Triple," meant.

Another question.

Artist wrote:
One of the Commando tests in the seventies was called the eighty minute double.

I thought the Commando tests have remained the same since WWII?