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Hi Lew

Point taken mate !
When I was at uni, the students I knew were sort of political, 2 of them were from south America.
I remember going on a demonstration to support the ambulance workers (well it was along time ago, mind you).

I've met people with no academic qualifications whatsoever but they have so much knowledge, so I respect their opinions.

so Lew , what are the youngsters concerned about these days ?

I thought they were more politically aware, cuz during Gulf war II, (the news) some kids walked out of their lessons i protest.

Lew would allow some one to operate on you who had only read a book on the subject, well the same applies here, there are those who have been through the mill and those who can talk about it.

ohh lots of things marina more to do with environmental and health concerns than international politics and who's fighting with who and why.

I could only name a handful of people other than myself who were at all bothered that the gulf was going on, I’m not sure what it was like in the rest of the country but around my area no body gave a dam...

Tab I was talking about generalisations, not all students are idealistic and in-experienced in the "real world" and it annoys me when people think we are, I’m guessing it would annoy you if someone said ohh he's only a soldier/marine what could he possibly know of politics or business all he has done is been trained to fight. (This is not my view, just using it to make a point) I don’t pretend to know about things I don’t as it would be wrong, I would be found out for what I was like some of the other twats did on hear.

What you have to understand is we are not all computer game playing, never worked a day in our life, see the world through rose coloured glasses, hang around on street corner drinking cider, etc I could go on but I now feel that I’m rambling...

I hope you get the point...


lew

Marina

Everyone has there day. (sad sacks included)

When they grow up hopefully they will realise just how sad they are. The world is full of them, I meet some of them. "Engage brain before opening mouth/using keyboard" Will not ever change them. It's life. They are the Silly Billies you meet when you do not need/want to. they are just a part of the great tapestry of life. Best just walk away or have a word with a moderater. The words SILLY LITTLE BOYS/GIRLS Springs to mind with most of them.

Just send them a PM and ask them what there service number was. It works for me. They have a habit of Pi**ing off when this is requested. (you aint seen me all right?)

Artist

To answer the original question it boils down to a need for validation.

And Lew, don't feel too riled up by comments made about students: I'm French and I know you don't quite hate us despite past comments of yours. Frustration takes confusing shortcuts, is all. You're right about generalisations....

I apologise to anyone i have offended, theres nothing wrong with people who have any kind of disability. I did not mean to offend anyone in the way i did. It seems that i have done the very thing that i started this thread about, I myself now feel the fool, and quite rightly so.

Sorry.

~Bruce~

Congratulations to Bruce for his apology on more than one thread, some do not apologise.

Living in a democracy we have the choice of reading, speaking or looking at whatever subject we like. There is an on/off button and people can easily be ignored, personally I treat some 'posts' like I treat the TV, rubbish on there, switch off!

Lew would allow some one to operate on you who had only read a book on the subject

Tab, I wouldn't want anyone to operate on me who had never read a book on the subject or been to university and medical school. You don't seem to realise that some educated people are also quite bright and as far as the forces goes some are nails as well. It's not necessarily any great shakes to have an academic education and by the same token its not necessarily bad.

Bruce and AC, it was big of you both to apologise - hats off to you.

Lew, I'm with you re students, although I remain a believer in justice, equality of opportunity and all soft of lefty stuff like that. I get a bee in my bonnet about it partly because I was beasted senseless for about 15 weeks of training (mostly by an ex pongo) largely because I joined with a degree (I was a bit of a biff as well but its easy to be a biff when that much pressure is stacked up on you). I got used to it and he gave up before I did

Tab

I fully agree with you that everyone has a right to an opinion and this should be respected. As for being 'inexperienced' in living in the real world (I'm not sure what the 'real' world is) then, by definition younger people are inexperienced or, at least, less experienced.

I doubt that there is a single 'oldie' alive who would say they really were as knowledgeable about the 'real world' when they were teenagers as they are now. Quite the opposite.

As a young man I thought (NO, I knew) I knew better than my parents and understood what 'life' was all about. Now I realize I knew next to diddly squat. It doesn't make the feelings I had then of right/wrong/love/politics, etc. any less intense or heart-felt. It just means that I can see now how a lack of 'experience' prevented me from seeing more of the 'big picture'

I see the same sequence happening with my daughters. It's just part of life or, dare I say it, growing up. When do we stop growing up? Never - we just die before we get there.

I see your points everyone,
Its good to know that youngsters are active in something be it environmental or health etc.
I really like spirit of those South Korean students when they do those sit-in' demonstrations outside buildings. (I’m a still student/idealist at heart too and I still like Che Guevera).

Sully,
Sorry to hear about your experience with that horrid man, but its good to know you never gave up !!

Prior to my eldest son going off to Uni I used to think that students were all beer swilling, tax dodging, left wing hippies who should all be jailed.

Now in his third year I now know that students are all beer swilling, tax dodging, left wing hippies who should all be jailed.

Disclaimer:

This is meant as humour = a joke, no harm intended etc. for any sensitive Uni folk out there

Contractor,

We have a sense of humour too !!

viva la revolution!

Artist,

You have cool girls.
The ironing technique is excellent !
My cousin also uses it too !

Marina, he was a very horrid man Character building though. I just thought I'd mention it because when I hear the same dismissive b*****s about students I come over all angry and bitter - so please bear with me. Contractor - sounds like a good life to me my friend The only thing wrong with it is that I'm not doing it

exactly Sully and I didn't even mention the incredible amount of gorgeous totty that seems to take up the rest of his lifestyle.

What a job, but I guess somebody has to do it.

Thanks for accepting my apology. I will make sure I dont make comments like that again.

Cheers,
~Bruce~