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Hmmmm,I do believe that you started the pissing competition old bill.

woof wrote:Hmmmm,I do believe that you started the pissing competition old bill.

Don't khow the f@#k you Are ?
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But i'll pooh as much as i can..!! I'm gonna kill something..!! sorry mate

And SO ON!!

Oh dear, where is Ida Pederson the only Dane I ever loved when I need her.

Wholley - woof posted over a week ago but you made your point (again) and claim that the thread has thereafter "degenerated" - if it has degenerated then you degenerated it. If you're feeling a bit left out and want to drag up that old discussion then crack on - I'm not interested

Bored Civvy - you're thinking along the right lines mate, good effort, you know what needs to be done Check out this bit from Legionnaire by Simon Murray:

"They were rough days and we saw some hard times, but looking back on it now I do not regret a single second. It was a magnificent experience, we had a camaraderie that was unparalleled and the world was a much freer place in which to move than it is today. There was more time to wander off the path then, so that a boy of nineteen could run off and climb a mountain if he wanted to. The corridors of life today seem narrow by comparison and the materialistic ends we seek require constant progression along the path from the moment we take our first examination. There is no allowance for time out.

But there is. And to those that totter on the brink, my advice is go, and do so while you are young, and you will be happy at forty."

I heeded that advice and it worked for me Good luck and work hard

Wholley wrote:

woof wrote: Being shot at most every day for weeks on end

Sorry,just saw this.
What a ridiculous comparison.
I will reiterate in case there has been some mis-understanding.
You guy's are out there with a squad,platoon and a whole bunch of back-up.
We are alone,no back up likely for a good long while.
When you hear the dreaded 10-19 followed by 10-22 at this 20 you know one of your own is down.
Not for weeks on end,but for months at a time,shift in and out.
As to my Military service,I am still liable.
NCNG(V)JAG(R)And I'd go in a heart beat.
This thread has degenerated into a"whose better than who?"Which belongs with the juveniles.

Well said Wholley, I truly believe that soldiers who haven't been cops have not the slightest inkling of the dangers inherent in the daily (and it is every day for 30 years) job of police officers, not just in the UK and US but the world over. Most police officers patrolling alone or with just one other officer.

I made that comparison right at the beginning of this thread. Those of us who have been soldiers and then cops, like you and I Wholley, know the reality and know where the real dangers lie. i.e on the street, in every doss house, in every drug den, in every Saturday night pub fight, outside every nightclub at 2 in the morning, on every anti-something march or demonstration, at every poltiical rally, at every suspected package or suspected vehicle outside a terrorist target and the list goes on and it is an endless list, because new threats arise every day.

Sully,

Excerpt from Simon Murray's book singularly adroit.
Only to be expected from a legal luminary and wordsmith
I used the word deliberately. I could have used the word
apposite but decided to be skillful. (?)
Every young man should experience serious physical and
mental challenges despite the occasional cathartic experience.
The book is a superb and enthralling read.

Keep smiling.

Bored Civvy wrote:Im in that position at the moment.
I had my chance and threw it away but still want to be a soldier and have had the "what if?" shadow over my shoulder for ages now...
Its horrible,I keep trying to decide whether to try again (I do want to) but then think should I (am I right for the forces?).
At the end of the day I dont want to be sitting in my mid thirties regretting not doing anything with my life.Being one of the people who got too comfortable and stayed in the same dead end job for 20 years.

Well mate, you know where you're local AFCO is. So I want to hear from you on this thread Monday afternoon that you were there bright and breezy Monday morning, making heartfelt enquiries as to the best options for you in the armed forces!

No one ever knows if they are right for the forces till they've tried it or till at least someone at an AFCO bluntly says "sorry mate, you're not right for the armed forces"

So find out now or regret not having found out for the rest of your life.

Heyup Chas,

You must have come across Mr Murray when he was at Jardines given your wanderings and geographical locations? Described in Wikipedia as "a British businessman of considerable success, author, former French Foreign Legionnaire, and bon vivant" Ring any bells my friend?

London Boy,

As you say Carpe Diem.
Also both the Armed forces and the Police Force can be very rewarding satisfaction wise.(I am not talking finance.) However night shift as a beat officer on your own can be very scary especially if you are in a tough area. You have to be constantly vigilant and possibly from time to time you may ponder on how long it will take for your back up to arrive if required. But you do your duty in accordance with your oath.
I do not consider that you can compare these two professions.
Each has its own dangers especially in the modern day.

Sully wrote:Wholley - woof posted over a week ago but you made your point (again) and claim that the thread has thereafter "degenerated" - if it has degenerated then you degenerated it. If you're feeling a bit left out and want to drag up that old discussion then crack on - I'm not interested

As I said,I had just read woofs post.
I don't have the time or inclination to be scoping these forums 24/7.
If you want to stir the cauldron,you go ahead.
But then your not interested are you

Ever our wholley, always the little stinger at the end of his postings. I guess that 24/7 chasing rocky Racoon and chewing gum at the same time demands intensive concentration.

woof wrote: I guess that 24/7 chasing rocky Racoon and chewing gum at the same time demands intensive concentration.

I sometimes had to drive a cruiser,chew gum,eat a donut and chase that bastard racoon all at the same time,then take my fifteen minute smoko.
Talk about multi-tasking.
Get home,yell at whichever female I was married to at the time,clean weapons,get dhobi underway and wait for the 04.00 call from dispatch.
"Duty supervisor?"
"No,fark off and leave me alone"
"Lieutenant,I know your DS,contact Whisky 105,channel one"
And so it goe's on...and on.

Thanks for that quote sully,I found it quite inspirational honestly.
I think accepting and getting through the hard times instead of hiding is what I need to do,work hard and just do it.

I know I definately want to go back to the forces but at the moment Im unsure where to go.Obviously with my past Im going to have to really prove myself wherever but I feel ready to do that now Ive grown up more.
At the moment Im considering between the Marines and RAF Regiment so Im reading up on both.
Cheers.

Bored Civvy,

Good luck with either Booties or RAF Regt. Of course I prefer the former but for goodness sake don't join the FFL. If you were to do so you would meet many East Europeans and even worse suffer from 'le cafard'.

Bored Civvy wrote:Thanks for that quote sully,I found it quite inspirational honestly.
I think accepting and getting through the hard times instead of hiding is what I need to do,work hard and just do it.

I know I definately want to go back to the forces but at the moment Im unsure where to go.Obviously with my past Im going to have to really prove myself wherever but I feel ready to do that now Ive grown up more.
At the moment Im considering between the Marines and RAF Regiment so Im reading up on both.
Cheers.

Well as an ex-Rockape (RAF Regt. gunner) myself I can only say, go for the Royal Marines!