I am interested in joining the British Army. Could anyone give me advice on what Regiment to join? I'm mostly interested in a unit that would prepare me for SAS. I would eventually like to try for the SAS after serving a few years in the Army.
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Eagle,
You can gain entry into the SAS from any regiment in the british army but it would be more difficult to become badged with 22 if you come from the Royal Marines, mostly due to general attitude of the training teams or Directive Staff (DS), Green into Brown doesn't normally go...
From my experience of 22, and SB, if you want to get the best available head start try the Royal Engineers or Royal Artillery, they are generally respected by 22.
Route would be through RE's 59 Indep Cdo RE and 9 Para Sqn RE.
Through RA is: 29 Cdo RA, 148 Bty RA, or 7 Para Reg RHA (Field).
Both where you can gain your Green Lid and Para wings.
I personally am bias towards the Royal Marines but have served alongside men from those units and they have an advantage in their Corps in that they can allign themselves in both Commando And Para Ops.
What ever you choose you are only as good as when you are there! but Prior Planning and Preparation Prevents Piss Poor Performance...
If you want to join the SAS streight from Civvie Street you can enlist in R Sqn SAS TA who will put you through the training and sponsor you through the first phase of Selection but if you are selected for the final stage you will have to be sponsored by a full time regiment (Usually the Para's - it helps them maintain high levels of membership in the Regiment.) But if you fail the final part you belong to the sponsor regiment...
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You can gain entry into the SAS from any regiment in the british army but it would be more difficult to become badged with 22 if you come from the Royal Marines, mostly due to general attitude of the training teams or Directive Staff (DS), Green into Brown doesn't normally go...
From my experience of 22, and SB, if you want to get the best available head start try the Royal Engineers or Royal Artillery, they are generally respected by 22.
Route would be through RE's 59 Indep Cdo RE and 9 Para Sqn RE.
Through RA is: 29 Cdo RA, 148 Bty RA, or 7 Para Reg RHA (Field).
Both where you can gain your Green Lid and Para wings.
I personally am bias towards the Royal Marines but have served alongside men from those units and they have an advantage in their Corps in that they can allign themselves in both Commando And Para Ops.
What ever you choose you are only as good as when you are there! but Prior Planning and Preparation Prevents Piss Poor Performance...
If you want to join the SAS streight from Civvie Street you can enlist in R Sqn SAS TA who will put you through the training and sponsor you through the first phase of Selection but if you are selected for the final stage you will have to be sponsored by a full time regiment (Usually the Para's - it helps them maintain high levels of membership in the Regiment.) But if you fail the final part you belong to the sponsor regiment...
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If your only goal is the SAS then the Para's are as good as any other regiment really, but not my choice as the Para's are very blinkered...
But if you are thinking long term join a Corps as this will give you the opportunity to serve in many operational areas and give you a “Bigger” view of the military and how things are done. Plus it will give you a trade to fall back on when you leave the services.
Whichever you choose you will enjoy it and never look back the time you consider how you should have done it is usually well after, and in the case of servicemen and women it is usually 2 years prior to discharge when the realisation hits you that you are only 40 and still have to go out there in Civvie Street and earn a living. There is not much call for Parachutists or infantry then…
But if you are thinking long term join a Corps as this will give you the opportunity to serve in many operational areas and give you a “Bigger” view of the military and how things are done. Plus it will give you a trade to fall back on when you leave the services.
Whichever you choose you will enjoy it and never look back the time you consider how you should have done it is usually well after, and in the case of servicemen and women it is usually 2 years prior to discharge when the realisation hits you that you are only 40 and still have to go out there in Civvie Street and earn a living. There is not much call for Parachutists or infantry then…
Hi Defiant... So you are joining the Scaley's good choice again a Corp not a regiment though it is split into regiments (I know). there is nothing wrong with the R Sigs, but Eagle would naturally join 264 (SAS) Sig Sqn as soon as he could and attempt to badge from there, Many of 264 who serve in the squadron pass selection fro the SAS and serve in a Sabre Sqn but usually end up as Patrol Signaller. Of course others I have known do do other things but can at anytime be seconded back to 264 and vice versa.
EAGLE, what I meant by "Blinkered" is:
Most elitist units become very self focused and actually believe they are the only troops who can and do do anything, any others are merely there to support them. This is down to the type of training they recieve, very focused on what each individual can and must be able to do, it makes very confident and professional troops. On most levels this means the average (Majority) guy is neither aware or interested in the big picture of the exercise or operation he is involved in...
They would not care about the capabilities of their logistical backup because it is run by "Leg's or Hats" of course they would not be able to do their job without this self attitude or indeed without the spporting arms.
Supporting Arms, and the two I selected are only a small sample, generally serve with all arms and services, in many different and interesting roles. When you become bored in one particular area you can request a Draft to another, ie, RE or RA have regiments who support the Para's, Marines, General Army and the RA even support the Navy with 148 Bty who do the (Naval Gunfire Support ie spotting and directing ships bombardments on shore (NGFS)
Join a Corp do basic training, gain a trade support the Para's (Gain your wings and red beret) do a couple of years there then get a draft to support the Marines (Get your Green Beret and Dagger) serve a couple of years then do selection with an open and informed mind and a conditioned body.
EAGLE a question,
Why do you wish to become a member of 22 SAS?
EAGLE, what I meant by "Blinkered" is:
Most elitist units become very self focused and actually believe they are the only troops who can and do do anything, any others are merely there to support them. This is down to the type of training they recieve, very focused on what each individual can and must be able to do, it makes very confident and professional troops. On most levels this means the average (Majority) guy is neither aware or interested in the big picture of the exercise or operation he is involved in...
They would not care about the capabilities of their logistical backup because it is run by "Leg's or Hats" of course they would not be able to do their job without this self attitude or indeed without the spporting arms.
Supporting Arms, and the two I selected are only a small sample, generally serve with all arms and services, in many different and interesting roles. When you become bored in one particular area you can request a Draft to another, ie, RE or RA have regiments who support the Para's, Marines, General Army and the RA even support the Navy with 148 Bty who do the (Naval Gunfire Support ie spotting and directing ships bombardments on shore (NGFS)
Join a Corp do basic training, gain a trade support the Para's (Gain your wings and red beret) do a couple of years there then get a draft to support the Marines (Get your Green Beret and Dagger) serve a couple of years then do selection with an open and informed mind and a conditioned body.
EAGLE a question,
Why do you wish to become a member of 22 SAS?
Bulldog:
I have soooo much to learn. So your saying, I would be better off joining a corps such as Artillery or engineering supporting the Para's? But why is it so much better to join a Corps then a Regiment? It seems that you think it’s a bad idea to join the Para’s because they are a regiment. For about 9 years I have always wanted to join the Military. For a few years now, I have been reading about the American Special Forces Teams and the British Special Forces teams. I have just been amazed with the operations they have done. I’m 19 and instead of just reading about them in books I have decided that I want to enlist into the military. Then in a few years try out for the SAS when I am physically fit and understand the military.
The Corps that has the most jobs that interest me the most is the 'The Infantry'.
http://www.army.mod.uk/unitsandorgs/sub ... /corps.htm
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I have soooo much to learn. So your saying, I would be better off joining a corps such as Artillery or engineering supporting the Para's? But why is it so much better to join a Corps then a Regiment? It seems that you think it’s a bad idea to join the Para’s because they are a regiment. For about 9 years I have always wanted to join the Military. For a few years now, I have been reading about the American Special Forces Teams and the British Special Forces teams. I have just been amazed with the operations they have done. I’m 19 and instead of just reading about them in books I have decided that I want to enlist into the military. Then in a few years try out for the SAS when I am physically fit and understand the military.
The Corps that has the most jobs that interest me the most is the 'The Infantry'.
http://www.army.mod.uk/unitsandorgs/sub ... /corps.htm
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Eagle, No one is better than the other, just different roles and different attitudes.
Basically Para's are Infantry Soldiers who's method of delivery is via a Parachute. once they are on the ground and in contact they are just infantry. The Para's are supported by the supporting arms of the Army who usually complete a para course to serve with the Airbourne Brigade.
The Royal Marines you might argue are the same, except they deploy in the Amphibiouse role, the difference being that the Royal Marines are Supported by Royal Marines who have undergone specialist training after they became Royal Marines Commando's. So instead of a Royal Signals Signaller looking after your communications you have a Royal Marine who is trained the same way as the Raoyal Marine Rifleman and who has experienced the Riflemans role has opted to take specialist training (SQ) to be a Royal Marines Commando but one who does the Signalling.
The bigger Support role of Artillary is no longer a role the Royal Marines do themselves but one which a specialist Unit (Regiment) 29 Indep Cdo RA who deploy with the Royal Marines, the Artillary also have a specialist Unit who Deploy with the Para's I mentioned them above, the point is that the Royal Marine recieves Commando Training and can do Para training and operate in these two roles but only in a Commando Brigade. A Para can only operate in the Para Brigade. The ArtilaryMan can do the commando training and operate in the commando brigade and then if he chooses and is selected can do the para training and serve in the Para Brigade, thus experiencing both types of warfare. Somthing which both the marine and the Para rarely ever get the oportunity to do.
If the aim is to become SAS badged then this is the wides experience you can get - both Marines and Para's are only seeing one side of the experience. Marines generally go SBS (but can go SAS these days) and the Para's only have the SAS option. An ArtilleryMan can go 148 Bty and do the NGFS role or go SBS or go SAS the choice is his entirely.
Your next step is to find out more about the Para's and The different Army Regiments to see what they do and what roles you can play in them, from this you can better make your desicion. At the end of the day (It gets Dark) which ever you join you will not regret it because they are all a way of life and you can join the SAS from any of them.
I chose the Royal Marines and Served 24 years with many diverse units regiments, and would do exactly the same again even though I knew nothing about the Marines before joining. I have served with both the SAS and the SBS (in a support role) and have worked closely with Delta and JSOC on joint Operations. I have also worked alongside the Royal Artillary and Royal Engineers, all of who do a very professional and real job.
My Father was A Tankie in the 13/18 Royal Hussars and he too would not have had it any otherway.
Basically Para's are Infantry Soldiers who's method of delivery is via a Parachute. once they are on the ground and in contact they are just infantry. The Para's are supported by the supporting arms of the Army who usually complete a para course to serve with the Airbourne Brigade.
The Royal Marines you might argue are the same, except they deploy in the Amphibiouse role, the difference being that the Royal Marines are Supported by Royal Marines who have undergone specialist training after they became Royal Marines Commando's. So instead of a Royal Signals Signaller looking after your communications you have a Royal Marine who is trained the same way as the Raoyal Marine Rifleman and who has experienced the Riflemans role has opted to take specialist training (SQ) to be a Royal Marines Commando but one who does the Signalling.
The bigger Support role of Artillary is no longer a role the Royal Marines do themselves but one which a specialist Unit (Regiment) 29 Indep Cdo RA who deploy with the Royal Marines, the Artillary also have a specialist Unit who Deploy with the Para's I mentioned them above, the point is that the Royal Marine recieves Commando Training and can do Para training and operate in these two roles but only in a Commando Brigade. A Para can only operate in the Para Brigade. The ArtilaryMan can do the commando training and operate in the commando brigade and then if he chooses and is selected can do the para training and serve in the Para Brigade, thus experiencing both types of warfare. Somthing which both the marine and the Para rarely ever get the oportunity to do.
If the aim is to become SAS badged then this is the wides experience you can get - both Marines and Para's are only seeing one side of the experience. Marines generally go SBS (but can go SAS these days) and the Para's only have the SAS option. An ArtilleryMan can go 148 Bty and do the NGFS role or go SBS or go SAS the choice is his entirely.
Your next step is to find out more about the Para's and The different Army Regiments to see what they do and what roles you can play in them, from this you can better make your desicion. At the end of the day (It gets Dark) which ever you join you will not regret it because they are all a way of life and you can join the SAS from any of them.
I chose the Royal Marines and Served 24 years with many diverse units regiments, and would do exactly the same again even though I knew nothing about the Marines before joining. I have served with both the SAS and the SBS (in a support role) and have worked closely with Delta and JSOC on joint Operations. I have also worked alongside the Royal Artillary and Royal Engineers, all of who do a very professional and real job.
My Father was A Tankie in the 13/18 Royal Hussars and he too would not have had it any otherway.
I have chosen a trade that has lasta 38 weeks to 48weeks.That means i have to spend my phase 2 training studing, where lots of guys get the experience of joining combat units. My aims are too progress in the signals but i really want a more active role. I dont just want to be behind the lines never getting real battle exerience. I dont want to say that my unit got a battle honours and i didnt even fire my gun at all.
