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#1 Post by TomN » Sun 12 Aug, 2012 8:22 pm

Currently going through the process of joining the TA at the moment.
Looking to join 7 Rifles.

I've been looking through the job options and really fancy assault engineer as a trade.
The blend of loads of skills would be useful to me in civvie street and it would still give me plenty of challenges and some combat.

I have a few questions though....
Would I be used as a general dogs body?
And would I be able to keep my Rifles cap badge, or would I have to go into RLC?

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#2 Post by Millar » Sun 12 Aug, 2012 10:49 pm

I'm pretty sure you would have to go RLC, but I could be wrong.
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#3 Post by TomN » Sun 12 Aug, 2012 11:05 pm

I looked on the army rolefinder and it came up as infantry/RAC/RLC.
Would rather keep the Rifles cap badge though, especially as i'm trying to join 7th Rifles.

Plus I won't get called a remf then!

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#4 Post by Millar » Sun 12 Aug, 2012 11:16 pm

TomN wrote:Plus I won't get called a remf then!
Still not as bad as being a Smurf :)
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#5 Post by Tab » Tue 14 Aug, 2012 11:26 pm

Once you are in a Company then you become one of the boys and you wont be picked on more than the rest of them, unless you are an idiot and keep doing things wrong the whole time

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#6 Post by Hielan' Laddie » Wed 15 Aug, 2012 12:22 am

As an Assault Pioneer then you'll be Rifles badged and be in your battalion support company. There is a nationally recruited TA pioneer unit based in Grantham.

On Ops then annyone can find themselves as a dogsbody. As an Assault Pioneer nowerdays you tend to deal more with IEDs and preparing defences for your FOB/PB. Of course you can always be 'dicked' for jobs like filling sandbags and so on, but the skills you get as a TA assault pioneer probably balance it out.

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#7 Post by TomN » Wed 15 Aug, 2012 11:14 am

Sounds good then. Don't fancy arsing around with IED's to be honest, but everything else sounds good.

The wife won't be too happy about me going infantry, but I want that Rifles cap badge.

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#8 Post by Hielan' Laddie » Thu 16 Aug, 2012 6:05 pm

TomN wrote:Sounds good then. Don't fancy arsing around with IED's to be honest, but everything else sounds good.

The wife won't be too happy about me going infantry, but I want that Rifles cap badge.
I'm not gonna lie - and please don't think I'm being patronising - but IEDs are bloody dangerous so it's only natural to feel worried. At the end of the day if no-one in a patrol volunteers to be the 'Vallon man' (person using the metal dector to find IEDs) then one of you will get "volunteered" for it - you're in the army and that is how it works. Happily as there are more specialist C-IED teams now then you won;t find yourself doing the really dangerous 'cut the red wire or blue wire' type stuff - that really is for mentalists!

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#9 Post by Tab » Thu 16 Aug, 2012 6:56 pm

If you find an IED it is best if you don't hit with your shovel to see it it is a dud, but just give it a swift kick

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#10 Post by TomN » Thu 16 Aug, 2012 8:17 pm

Thanks Tab, i'll bear that in mind. I'll practice throwing rocks at things on the ground then.

As long as I don't have to feck with IED's up close, i'm happy.

As an assault pioneer, would I be more likely to be the vallon man?

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#11 Post by Millar » Thu 16 Aug, 2012 9:20 pm

TomN wrote:Thanks Tab, i'll bear that in mind. I'll practice throwing rocks at things on the ground then.

He said a swift kick, not throw rocks! Throwing rocks is simply dangerous, someone could seriously get hurt.
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Re: Pioneer

#12 Post by TomN » Thu 16 Aug, 2012 9:38 pm

As long as I don't have to fill out any forms, or read a risk assessment i'll be happy.

Can't wait to get on with this!

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