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General discussions on joining & training in the Royal Marines.
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Post by ali_hire »

Whilst I agree with Chrisbrum, Dwarfy and the others who have posted blunt but relevant opinions on this thread, I'm not going to jump on the "What are you on about now Stinky" bandwagon (I think I've given you enough of a hard time in the past and you seem to have taken some of it on board and matured a lot).

My best advice would be to figure out the reasons behind your lack of motivation. The problem you seem to have is not uncommon, you want something but you don't want to work for it.

If you don't mind, how old are you Stinky? The reason I ask is that I, along with many people I know (mainly male), had a similar attitude/experience between the ages of 16-18. I thought that the world own me a living and that I would magicaly fall into a job with minimal effort but maximum reward.

My guess is that you probably will get past this stage in your life and (not to sound patronising) it is probably a phase you are going through.

Another thing that could help you (and I stress the word COULD as they are not for everyone) is self-help books. Some people will laugh and say they are crap but they do work for some people. Paul McKenna's "I Can Give You Confidence" is supposed to be very good.
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Stinky lad, sorry if I'm barking up the wrong f-ing tree but...

Is there elements of you wanting to the army because at the end of the day its got a lot to do with 'Success' and everything what comes with it, against 'Time'.
What i mean by time is, if for what ever reason, may it be injury or simply not making the grade and being told to come back in 6 or 12 months time or longer is extremely disappointing and it seems the longer it gets from that success the harder it is to focus, even with people saying,
"your still a young lad you've the whole life still ahead of you."

Just because you attempted the prmc and didn't pass and having come away from this experience back to your daily routines feeling you haven't gained nothing but a fainted dream, so you automatically start to look for other options, other ways to get round this, thinking, by the time i do my second prmc i would have passed out, done my jumps and got my wings. i would also still be a elite soldier.

Go for lad, if thats what want to do, but sounds like you got your heart set on as a royal.
Its like what my recruiter officer asked me a while back,

"How much do you want this?"

I think thats what you need ask yourself.

Take full advantage of you spare time, build and progress your weaknesses and fine tune your strengths, think those few months down the line will come around like there tomorrow and you'll be fitter and stronger.

Keep the 'Green Lid' in mind lad.
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Post by dwarfy »

I'm just going add stinky how important it is that you find yourself a job. Apart from the obvious benefits of the money you will make, i am positive you will find that your motivation for everything will increase including to train harder. You need something to get up for in the morning, even if it is to just go and work 4 or 5 hours in a shop or supermarket. When you wake up everyday and have NOTHING to do im not surprised you dont feel motivated, why would you? You need a bit of structure, if your working at 9 you know you have to get up in the morning and go, you know you can run when you finish or if you work in the afternoon, go in the morning. But when you have nothing to do all day, as strange as it is its probably less likely that you will feel like doing any phys. Your likely sitting around all day and that just destroys you mentally and completely depletes your energy levels. Get out and do something mate, meet some people at a new job, and start having a cause so to speak. I reckon after a few weeks you will feel far more alive and happy with yourself which will reflect massively on your motivation to train.
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Post by RA_Tom »

Stinky, echoing what others have said, the army dont want people lacking in motivation. The army is not a second choice! You wont even begin to comprehend just how badly that attitude and opinion would go down with your training staff and other recruits if you did try to join!

Get yourself a job, its depressing being unemployed, you have all the hallmarks of depression. Tell everyone, mates, parents, that you are going to get a job (civvy) and re-assess your options for a few months. Forks sake mate tell em your depressed! Get some support! Go into an agency or 5 or 6 and getta job, you can walk in to adecco today and be employed tomorrow. Get some labouring work, excellent for phys.

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Post by fubar84 »

Stinky your clearly in a rut, but you're no different from anyone else. Every time I'm doing my 1.5 or 3 mile best effort I'm asking myself "should i slow down and have an easy run today?" Everyone reaches a stage in training when they lack motivation.

Due to circumstances in my personal life I'm currently unemployed, but I see this as a good opportunity to train as hard as I can, get at least 8-9 hours of sleep every night and not have being knackered from work interfere with my training routine.

The reality is that if you can't motivate yourself to train then your unlikely to be able to motivate yourself through training (for any forces career) once that novelty of doing something new wears off.

What if you complete training? Do you think that you will have someone behind you giving you that comforting push in the right direction for you're entire career? The answer is no.

As for raising moral - I don't think the other lads in your troop would be overly chuffed with having to push you along constantly as well as motivating themselves. This is not how you 'raise moral'

You talk of considering the Army over RM, you may also want to consider that a 1.5 mile best effort for entry requires a maximum completion time of 11mins 30seconds. Thats a whole minute less than your current time...

To be totally blunt, I think that instead of considering the Army over RM, you should be considering whether you are actually suited for a career in the forces at all.

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Post by hobbsy »

If your having trouble motivating yourself, join a sports club/team, make it anything, rugby, footie, swimming, athletics, badminton, boxing, running, whatever, it'll help because your training with other people, and the instructor will tell you what to do. It all helps, then you'll eventually get fitter, at least your not just sitting on your arse doing nothing all day.
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Post by TheWedge »

Stinky wrote:even when I am running I would happily stop after a mile. At the moment my life is at a stand still and I have been the lazyist sod I know, I haven't had a job in about 5 months now and since my last PRMC my fitness has gone down the drain.
Stinks, you have summed yourself up there, that is the quote of someone that has completely wrapped on life. I am being honest. The Army are not as fussy as the Marines in some regiments, but even the Army are not looking for anyone that is willing to wrap after a mile. You really have to forget about the armed forces as a career and actually focus on what it is you want to achieve in your life. If you rock up at any military training centre with the attitude you described above you will quickly be shown the door. Coming on a military training board with a negative attitude and dripping about life won't change your life at all.
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Good words Addiction im printing out bit about hot women on the wall. I was on my ass for 10 minitues laughing
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Post by Stinky »

All these posts are great, and I would reply to each one of you but theres so many giving support. I think I have just convinced my parents about what I want to do, but they seems angry about it. I have applied for a job at some farming place and if that fails I will just try and get one in a high street shop or something. I people go into the army thinking thats what they really want to do then I would be making a big mistake.
Thinking about the PRMC now, I failed it by my main weak point (running) and that was only by a few seconds, if I had passed that I think I could have stood a chance. If I am going to make any effort to get into the marines again it might as well be now, I haven't decided what sport club I am going to join yet but I am going to start swimming, maybe learn how to finaly do front crawl :oops:. Start my press-ups again, definitely start my running again and when I get some money I'm joining a gym. I am actully looking forward to this. As some of you said, I think the main reason I am not motivated at the moment is because I feel crap, once I am doing something again I'll start getting the same feeling as when I beat my last time on a run.
I feel bad for making a post about something and then changing my mind but after I wrote the post I definitaly felt better and the posts definitaly helped, even the ones against me. I'm starting to get angry I am not doing anything at the moment, I can't wait to see what happens to me in about 1 weeks time I just hope to god I am not in the same position as I am now. Thanks again.
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Post by 803troop »

"Stinky your clearly in a rut, but you're no different from anyone else. Every time I'm doing my 1.5 or 3 mile best effort I'm asking myself "should i slow down and have an easy run today?" Everyone reaches a stage in training when they lack motivation. "

Being unemployed is the most demorilsing thing I can think of (I've been there to). Break out of your rut get a job (part time if nohing to at leeast have something to do. This will help confidence and motivation.

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Get off your ass Surfer, and get some booty on your wall.

This guy at my gym used to make his max lifts in front of a porn mag, he claimed sex was his biggest inspiration, which is true for a lot of people.

The owner didn't mind, providing he made an effort to keep the mag away from the younger lifters :D .
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Hi stinky,

I have had motivation problems like yourself and it is pretty shit and depressing, but at the end of the day I thought to myself I want to be a Royal Marine and nothing else and being a lazy tw*t like i was wasn't the way to go about becoming one. I'd make myself train even when i didn't feel like and trust me when I don't feel like doing sonething I normally just say to myself i will do it later and it just drags on and on and on so i feel quite good when i manage to get out and train when i feel like that.

Before i took my PRMC I trained on my own most of the time wich was so boring but had to be done for me to get to RM fitness standards, i sometimes managed to get mates down to the gym but they can be quite lazy lol. Its just mind over matter mate, if you want it then get off your arse and do it and you will certainly feel good about it.

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STINKY when i was at school i weighed 18 stone and was a 44 inch waist i always wanted to be a soldier and one day i looked at myself and thought im not living my life like this.

i started running and people laughed at me when i lost some weight i decided i wanted to join the royal marines when i told people they laughed even harder when i came home on leave and seen some of these people they didn't even recognise me they were fat! and then when i told they i was in royal marines training they were speech less . have some self beleif in your self and you'll do it mate even last year i was so depressed about being injured i felt sorry for myself and put a shed load of weight on iv lost most of it now and im getting back for joining ROYAL.

The end of the day mt freind it's all down to you and your self beleif in yourself!!

ps you say your not a runner try lugging 15 stone about and i can run a mile and a half in 9.05 :P
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You've got plenty of support mate. Chin up, stomach in.

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stinky watch this video hope this gives a bit of inspiration i love this song only found it today :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WkP_NaMsrMM

and also read my post A WORD ABOUT EFFORT photocopy it and put it on your door so you can read it every time you wake up!
ex nod was diagnosed with chronic compartment syndrome rejoining eventually.

currently in australia as im traveling the world before i rejoin the marines.

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