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Alright guys looks like in 50 years we'll have blow stuff up in our back yard not in Afghans!!!!!

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Looks impressive, but I have no idea what your description's about. :lol:
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Looks like running will be the big hold back on it.
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Some American and Japanese companies have developed exoskeletons that are full body suits (similar looking to the guy in Halo).

They're fully bulletproof, resistant to most small explosions, run at over 50mph and for very long periods, etc. etc.

The problem is not technology, it's reliability and, more importantly, cost.

We won't see these in use in our lifetime.
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ali_hire wrote:
The problem is not technology, it's reliability and, more importantly, cost.

We won't see these in use in our lifetime.
I strongly disagree with you on that. 20 years ago no one thought that cellphones would be a feasible item to have for everyone, they didn't think the internet had any personal use or use outside of moving files, flatscreen TVs, DVDs, CDs, I-pods, person GPS and the list goes on all of which either didn't exist or were only thought of as an 'idea for the distant future'.

Technology is becoming more available and a faster rate than ever, so I would say these will be ready in 10-15 years easily, especially if they get decent funding from the US government.
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Bullets will still kill him :o
erm robots in combat? EMP should solve that problem
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That is scary
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Mr_Kiwi wrote:
ali_hire wrote:
The problem is not technology, it's reliability and, more importantly, cost.

We won't see these in use in our lifetime.
I strongly disagree with you on that. 20 years ago no one thought that cellphones would be a feasible item to have for everyone, they didn't think the internet had any personal use or use outside of moving files, flatscreen TVs, DVDs, CDs, I-pods, person GPS and the list goes on all of which either didn't exist or were only thought of as an 'idea for the distant future'.

Technology is becoming more available and a faster rate than ever, so I would say these will be ready in 10-15 years easily, especially if they get decent funding from the US government.
I'm not trying to say that we won't see them tested and developed, but no military in the world is going to equip all of their ground troops with one of these. I think you are being a bit naive.

Given that the cost of manufacture alone is around £15,000 per unit and there are approx. 5500 of our troops in Iraq alone, that is a cost of £82.5m. And that's just Iraq at the moment and I've only mentioned the production cost, not the cost to the armed forces.

If our government can't afford to equip our forces with properly armoured Land Rovers and Helicoptors and won't provide them with the proper body armour, sidearms or even gloves. Then what makes you think they are about to fork out on these?

The only country who would probably consider it IMO is North Korea and that's because they have a nutter running things. Luckily, they wouldn't be able to afford it.
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Post by Mr_Kiwi »

I agree that having every single ground troop wearing them isnt going to happen for a long long time, but I still think that they will have specialised units using them in the very near future.

I also agree that the UK getting them is a even further way off, my bet will be the US first.
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When it comes to military technology what I find more interesting than the technology itself is peoples initial reaction to it, as if this technology is somehow going to make war obsolete. With all likelihood Western nations are going to be fighting assymetric adversaries for decades to come, and the US DOD in particular is spending billions of dollars on research into technology that will give western military forces very little help when fighitng assymetric wars. The entire philosophy of the American defence department is that technology must be the answer, no matter what the question is. If anyones interested, this book talks about military technology quite a bit, but in a general theoretical way (not irrelevent specifics).

http://www.amazon.ca/War-X-Human-Extens ... 0802087914

But the Sarcos Exoskeletan is just the tip of the iceburg - in fact, its not even a new concept, just as old one a step closer to competelion due to contemporary technology. Put it this way, Metal Storm and other companies have already developed fully-autonomous self-propelled vihicles, while the most useful technologies at the moment seem to be basic protective weapons, such as miniguns (can't remember the proper name sorry - like those mounted on warhsips) able to detect and destroy incoming artillery and morter fire, or UAVs. In fact, thats a lie - most projects seem to be about making the command structure more efficient so commanders have more control over battlespace using C4ISR. Its a long way off until we have robots or cyborgs running around doing our killing for us.

This is the main stuff that the US is investing in, at the MIT Institute for Soldier Technologies. http://web.mit.edu/ISN/ .


With all liklihood, the Sarcos system will be available and used extensively within our lifetime (they have the knowledge and the technology, and the funds - theres nothing to stop them other than a withdrawal of funds), and it will be affordable to many governments even if each suit cost more than $1million (a single B2 Spirit costs anywhere between 800million and 2billion US dollars, and even they have their limits). But the Sarcos is not meant to be used in combat - even with such agility its too restrictive to individual soldiers - at best it would be used by soldiers to travell longer distances over controlled ground, otherwise its use is going to be confined to logistics, where it will be of great help. But the idea of it being used in combat or equipped with weapons is pure hollywood fantasy (watch the 3rd Matrix film). Of course, they could easily assist combat troops by kicking in doors or bringing resupplies, etc.
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I reckon it would be a great tool for shifting gear about, loading trucks or boats etc.
Like that machine she uses in the film Aliens 8)

Don't know about other uses but we shall see!
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