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The Royal oath

Posted: Sun 17 Aug, 2003 2:21 pm
by Jon
How does everyone feel about taking an oath to the queen?

I mean, is everyone a pro-monarchist or do you just see the oath as a thing to do just to get in?

Posted: Sun 17 Aug, 2003 3:23 pm
by Sisyphus
Love them or hate them, the Monarchy is one of the last traditions the British have managed to keep. Other countries have all sorts of festivals, Norway celebrates a national 'Norway day', Yanks have 4th July, France -Bastille Day, etc.

I guess it's hardly sufficient justification for retaining the Monarchy but it'll do for me. Once they've gone what've we got left? Zilch - oh, apart from the occasional group of Morris Dancers.

So, yes, I'm for the Oath - as a symbol of our nationhood and the Queen as a focal point for the citizens of this country. And, no, I wouldn't want a President as the figurehead of state - even the thought of just one more politician makes me want to vomit.

Posted: Sun 17 Aug, 2003 3:54 pm
by combat-engineer
Well said Sisyphus,
Theres a lot to said about getting rid of the monarchy, but at the end of the day I'd rather ole' Liz as the head of the country, rather than some power hungry nonce such as Blair or Bush..... 8)

Posted: Sun 17 Aug, 2003 4:01 pm
by Mheyda
I see the oath to the queen as a thing I have to do...
although I would rather have the royal family (the real ones) than somone else like bush or blair as the other guys said

Posted: Sun 17 Aug, 2003 6:51 pm
by Tab
Look we either swear a oath to the Queen or we would swear an oath to the Prime Minister Tony Blair as Head Of State, now which one would you chose.


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Posted: Sun 17 Aug, 2003 7:33 pm
by Twenty One
You must remember that when you take the Oath you are showing your respect for your country and for the head of state,in the UK it happens to be Her Majesty HRH The Queen.Although HM has no say in it, she commands the respect and love of the nation irrespective of your politics or persuation.The main thing is your loyalty to your comrades and those who hold the Queens Commission.

Posted: Sun 17 Aug, 2003 7:33 pm
by Aldo
I see the queen as a symbol of our country, i mean if you mention the Royal family to anyone in the world they'll think of Britain, so I see taking an oath to the queen as an oath to my country, and I'm perfectly happy to do that.

Posted: Sun 17 Aug, 2003 8:22 pm
by chunky from york
While I feel the Royal Family might be a bit on the large size and some of them do take liberties.

The thought of swearing an oath to Tony Blair or any of his ilk make me feel quite sick. :fist:

Posted: Sun 17 Aug, 2003 8:28 pm
by lew
I don’t like them, but I have taken this oath, and its not that hard to do, if you don’t like her look at it as your swearing to protect your country and your family that reside in it... at the end of the day its a contract of service, you have to take the oath to be able to be in the armed forces...


lew

Posted: Sun 17 Aug, 2003 8:37 pm
by Jon
If Britain was a Republic, we'd have to take an oath to the flag or to the constitution, not to the President.

I wouldn't mind seeing the monarchy being abolished, because they have no relevence today. But at the same time, I wouldn't like Britain to follow the same system of the US.

At the end of the day, its the Marines that I want the most, therefore I wouldn't hesitate to take the oath. Saying a few words means f@#k all anyway.

Posted: Sun 17 Aug, 2003 10:59 pm
by owdun
Saying a few words that mean f--k all.If thats all that the oath means to you ,sunshine, I for one,would not wish to have you serving alongside me.Your word means nothing, and that means you cannot be trusted.If you cannot be trusted, you have no right to aspire to be a Royal Marine.


Owdun.

Posted: Mon 18 Aug, 2003 12:04 am
by lodgi
I wouldn't mind seeing the monarchy being abolished, because they have no relevence today. But at the same time, I wouldn't like Britain to follow the same system of the US.
They havn't controlled the country since Oliver Cromwell got rid of them. I wouldn't say I was a monarchist but they are a symbol of Britain and when they are gone what do we have left? As Sisyphus says, a few Morris Dancers and fish and chips. People say they cost taxpayers money, they cost Britain £40-50m a year which is nothing compared to the money they make for us through tourism. Americans favourite holiday destination is Britian believe it or not, and they don't come to sample the tea. They want to see Britain's traditional buildings and institutions. Our monarchy is something no-one else in the world can have and a lot of them want it. America would love to have what we have but they cant because they dont have the history. I think it will be a sad day if they monarchy is ever brought down, simply because Britian would be like any other republic.

Posted: Mon 18 Aug, 2003 12:22 am
by owdun
The Crown lands were ceded to parliament for an annual sum to be paid by the exchequer. The sum raised from those lands far exceeds anything paid to the present Royal family. There are those who believe that they only had that property through right of conquest, and it is the governments by right of the people, not a very good look out for the rest of us if that argument is followed through to it's conclusion.


Aye Owdun.

Posted: Mon 18 Aug, 2003 2:35 am
by spitz
Don’t forget that the Queen has more experience in foreign relations than any Prime Minister or President can ever achieve in office, albeit with a non-political role and influence. She’s been promoting Britain abroad and amusing Johnny foreigner at garden party’s for fifty years, doubt there would be a commonwealth without Betty as figurehead.

Correct me if I’m wrong here, but doesn’t the majority of the public money spent by the Queen go into paying staff wages? How much would it cost Britain to replace Betty with a President less/same/more? Just wouldn’t be the same with President B’liar trooping the colour, and if ol’ Queenie ever landed on Ark Royal I’ll guarantee she’d get a better response than Bush did in the press, and she wouldn’t have the same trouble as Bush with his balls trussed up round his nipples in a flight harness.

I think the queen is OK, it’s the alternatives and her successor that are worrying. :cry:

Posted: Mon 18 Aug, 2003 9:19 am
by lew
spitz wrote:I think the queen is OK, it’s the alternatives and her successor that are worrying. :cry:

I think William will be better for this country than the queen ever was and will be, just give him time it grow up a bit more...



lew