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9ft wall!!!!

Posted: Tue 02 Jun, 2009 11:49 pm
by mrdan
Okay, ive heard that on the PGAC you have to get over a 9ft wall. i am not the best of people to climb a wall with no foot holes at the moment. so do you have to get over this on your own? because it seems a little high to get over just for selection. any help would be greatful

thanks

dan

Posted: Wed 03 Jun, 2009 1:24 am
by gunner75
Dont worry about it. Piece of p*ss. Just run like f*ck at it and confidently jump and reach up to grab the top. With momentum and a certain amount of upper body strength you will get over it. Roll over the top of it and jump down. Jobs a good un. You HAVE to attack these things aggressively otherwise if your mincing about the PTI's are gonna get ya....

Re: 9ft wall!!!!

Posted: Wed 03 Jun, 2009 1:24 am
by mr_man_2168
mrdan wrote:Okay, ive heard that on the PGAC you have to get over a 9ft wall. i am not the best of people to climb a wall with no foot holes at the moment. so do you have to get over this on your own? because it seems a little high to get over just for selection. any help would be greatful

thanks

dan
There is a 9ft wall as part of the assault course, yes. Decent upper body strength and a bit of determination will get you over it, very few lads on my PGAC didn't manage, even those that took 2 or 3 attempts with a run up eventually got over. If you really can't do it, one of the PTIs will give you a leg up, but not until you've made plenty of decent attempts. They're testing your determination here, not just your strength and agility. Best way is to keep your momentum going, get over as fast as possible rather than grabbing the top, dangling, then trying to pull yourself up, etc

Posted: Thu 04 Jun, 2009 10:01 pm
by mrdan
thats okay then. ill attempt to jump the fence at the back of my house first. then ill look for a 9ft one haha. only 6 weeks to go now :D

Posted: Fri 05 Jun, 2009 2:50 am
by druadan
If you can do an overhand pull-up, you can get over anything you can reach the top of. Run, jump, grab, chin over top, swing leg, job's a good-un.

Posted: Fri 05 Jun, 2009 1:45 pm
by mrdan
okay thanks. does anyone know what the multi stage fitness test is?

Posted: Fri 05 Jun, 2009 3:27 pm
by mr_man_2168
Ever done the bleep test? Same thing. Run between 2 lines spaced 20 meters apart in time to beeps on a tape. Every minute(ish) you go up a level and the beeps get 0.5 seconds closer together. So your score will be a level, and then a number of beeps in that level, i.e 1.2 :wink: 9.8, 10.12, etc

Posted: Sat 06 Jun, 2009 1:59 pm
by EagleEyes
mr_man_2168 wrote:Ever done the bleep test? Same thing. Run between 2 lines spaced 20 meters apart in time to beeps on a tape. Every minute(ish) you go up a level and the beeps get 0.5 seconds closer together. So your score will be a level, and then a number of beeps in that level, i.e 1.2 :wink: 9.8, 10.12, etc
They say though you can be quite unfit but very good at bleep tests, its ment to be all about practice and little to do with fitness - obviously fitness helps...

Posted: Sat 06 Jun, 2009 2:11 pm
by mr_man_2168
EagleEyes wrote:
mr_man_2168 wrote:Ever done the bleep test? Same thing. Run between 2 lines spaced 20 meters apart in time to beeps on a tape. Every minute(ish) you go up a level and the beeps get 0.5 seconds closer together. So your score will be a level, and then a number of beeps in that level, i.e 1.2 :wink: 9.8, 10.12, etc
They say though you can be quite unfit but very good at bleep tests, its ment to be all about practice and little to do with fitness - obviously fitness helps...
Hmm... Not sure how that works :-?
How can you practice without becoming fitter anyway?

Posted: Sat 06 Jun, 2009 3:03 pm
by daz89
druadan wrote:If you can do an overhand pull-up, you can get over anything you can reach the top of. Run, jump, grab, chin over top, swing leg, job's a good-un.
When i applied for the royal marines I got told that you can never do enough pull-ups, Iv never been in RM training but I guess thats what the instructor was talking about.

Posted: Sat 06 Jun, 2009 11:45 pm
by mrdan
the multi stage fitness test was totally seperate to the bleep test on the letter that i recived from the AFCO on monday thats what confused me. thought it might have been something different.

Posted: Sun 07 Jun, 2009 12:44 am
by gunner75
i think i done one of them on the early days at 4 para. would i be right in saying 14.5 would be a good score?

Posted: Sun 07 Jun, 2009 10:22 am
by mr_man_2168
mrdan wrote:the multi stage fitness test was totally seperate to the bleep test on the letter that i recived from the AFCO on monday thats what confused me. thought it might have been something different.
Maybe you're doing it twice :lol:

Posted: Sun 07 Jun, 2009 11:00 am
by EagleEyes
mr_man_2168 wrote:
EagleEyes wrote:
mr_man_2168 wrote:Ever done the bleep test? Same thing. Run between 2 lines spaced 20 meters apart in time to beeps on a tape. Every minute(ish) you go up a level and the beeps get 0.5 seconds closer together. So your score will be a level, and then a number of beeps in that level, i.e 1.2 :wink: 9.8, 10.12, etc
They say though you can be quite unfit but very good at bleep tests, its ment to be all about practice and little to do with fitness - obviously fitness helps...
Hmm... Not sure how that works :-?
How can you practice without becoming fitter anyway?
You can download the program to your phone set out the distance and keep practicing via that.
mr_man_2168 wrote:How can you practice without becoming fitter anyway?
Not training hard enough, Not eating healthily, Not stretching before and after, lots of reasons.
But that not the point. What I was saying is that its all about getting used to the timings and knowing when to speed up slow down, some one who does it regularly will know the timings like second nature whereas someone who is doing it for there first time although at a higher standard of fitness will get a much lower score.

Posted: Sun 07 Jun, 2009 3:10 pm
by mr_man_2168
EagleEyes wrote:
... What I was saying is that its all about getting used to the timings and knowing when to speed up slow down, some one who does it regularly will know the timings like second nature...
I'd agree with that if the timings were constantly changing, but they decrease by the same amount every minute, and the tape tells you when you advance a level so you know the pace is moving up slightly. It's not like it goes from 9 seconds to 4, to 8, etc.