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Does anyone know an accurate percentage of people who fail
Posted: Sun 13 Jan, 2008 11:55 am
by karlbfc
I heard that 99.9% of people who try out for the RM (I think it means both the POC and the PRMC) fail, is that accurate?
If not could you please post an accurate percentage, thanks =)
Posted: Sun 13 Jan, 2008 12:09 pm
by Stokey_14
I believe that was the % was from the advert if I’m not mistaken, also it's taken a lot of flack for saying that, the pass rate is certainly higher, think about it... if that was true then out of every 1000 people who join approximately 1 person would pass (think my math’s is correct there

), there would be no Royal Marine's if this was the case.
Don't focus on how many fail, focus on how your going to succeed.
Just remember to keep a PMA…
P = Positive
M= Mental
A= Attitude
All the best
Stokey
Posted: Sun 13 Jan, 2008 1:18 pm
by KODE
From what I was aware the "99.99% need not apply" is in reference to that the RM's are approx 0.01% of the British population. Therefore meaning that the other 99.99% are not RM's. At the time this would have meant the would have been around 6500-7000 RM's.
Either that or someone fed me a length
If someone could shed light on this?

Posted: Sun 13 Jan, 2008 2:58 pm
by degrees of passion
I wouldn't read too much into that 99.99% need not apply,I think this is just an advertising slogan trying to get the message across that RM training is extrememly hard and very few succeed:Trying to attract the type of people who like a challenge and recognise that the green beret club is very exclusive and only open a select few individuals of this population.If i was to hazard a guess,and I think i've read something on this before,the pass rates for RM training(not sure if this includes YO aswell) is only just a bit higher than other SF training like the SAS and US Navy SEALs,which is around the region of 20-30%.
Posted: Sun 13 Jan, 2008 5:02 pm
by Mitch
The reference to 99.99% is just an advertising slogan but was (relatively) correct as the population of Britain was 65m. However, don't get caught up on percentage pass rates or the like, as stokey says it is best to have a positive mental attitude.
Mitch
Posted: Sun 13 Jan, 2008 6:03 pm
by mm1306
Some people do not even fail but they decide they don't like it or they get backsquadded which will dishearten them, some of them are capable of passing and can even be good recruits but drop out anyway. But it is definitely true that more than 0.01% of those who try to join will complete their training.
Posted: Sun 13 Jan, 2008 6:06 pm
by nufc_rulz
Usually from a Troop of 60 around 5-20 originals pass out and then and some back troopers on as well. One troop when I was down there was known as cotton wool troop and 30 originals passed out.
Posted: Sun 13 Jan, 2008 6:52 pm
by davidemmerson
I read on the RM website that the failure rate for YO training was 30-40%. But don't get hung up on failure rates and stuff. To be honest it's a bit of a stupid question, if your not good enough you aren't going to make it. I'm not saying failure rates are cack but don't base your sucess by them.
David
Posted: Sun 13 Jan, 2008 7:04 pm
by SNiDE
I was told that 0.01% of people who declare an interest in joining (an an AFCO) pass out- i.e they decide not to join, fail the interview/medical/aptitude tests/PJFT/prmc/recruit training.
Posted: Sun 13 Jan, 2008 9:16 pm
by _chris
SNiDE wrote:I was told that 0.01% of people who declare an interest in joining (an an AFCO) pass out- i.e they decide not to join, fail the interview/medical/aptitude tests/PJFT/prmc/recruit training.
If that were the case, assumign the Royal Marines manpower to be around 7,500 men (it was 7,430 in 2006) then we must assume 75,000,000 people showed an interest in having those places. The population of the UK is around 61,000,000 people, so this seems extremely unlikely to me.
All that particular statistic is about is that around 99.99% of UK citizens are not Royal Marines, and so they needn't have applied, what you've got to remember is most of them won't have, in fact at least half of them wouldn't be eligible to. Of the people who the adverts aimed at, the mentally strong young male the percentage of those who make it to be marines would be much higher; of those who actualy show interest even higher.
But as has been said, don't worry about the statistics of others failing, you just have to think about you suceeding.
Posted: Mon 14 Jan, 2008 9:54 am
by mm1306
I read in Globe and Laurel that the corps is 580 under strength(or was 7 months back any way) so either more people fail training or drop out or fewer people are interested in joining.
Posted: Mon 14 Jan, 2008 4:42 pm
by karlbfc
Thanks everyone who replied, I was only wondering what it was for a school project

gotta do a talk on a subject I'm interested in and that would have been a useful fact

99.99%
Posted: Mon 14 Jan, 2008 8:24 pm
by alfred_the_great
Didn't apply, and the campaign was a complete failure. Hence the new one - sometimes trying to be an "elite" doesn't quite work!
Posted: Mon 14 Jan, 2008 8:27 pm
by Artist
It was once stated (so I was told) that it is harder to get into the Royal Marines than it is to get a child into Eton College. Don't know if this is true but it sounds about right to me.
They want guys who are going to hack it, not guys who talk the talk without walking the walk. May sound trite but it's true. The drop out rate has always been the same. Be it due to injury or wrapping in.
Come week 12 when I was in training (1973) a third of the troop left after paying £25 to buy themselves out. One bloke left on the Friday morning along with all the other failures but was back come Friday evening as his fathers reaction was to say to his beloved son
"Are you Bollox wrapping in Sunshine!" when he turned up at his parents house (his father was a former Bootneck SNCO).
His Father then drove him back to CTCRM, deposited him at the Guard Room with the words
"He's changed his mind. Sort the Eeijut out please!". He was allowed to stay at CTCRM that weekend in a cell in the guardroom even though technically he was a civvy. Come Monday morning he rejoined our troop after joining up again. He never, ever got his £25 back! Meanwhile his father spent the night in the Sgts Mess and got totally ringbolted as all the SNCO's/WO's lashed him up stinking
This guy who wrapped after 12 weeks went onto become a fully fledged SC (Swimmer Canoeist) with the SBS. For obvious reasons I am not going to give out his name but his nickname had a lot to do with where rabbits live in the wild.
Artist