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Royal Marine Commando Snipers

General discussions on joining & training in the Royal Marines.
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Royal Marine Commando Snipers

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Can you become a sniper in the royal marines??
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Yes you can, by specializing as a 'Mountain Leader' if I'm not mistaking.
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do you have to be an officer to be able to become a mountain leader??
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Nope, Entry ranks can by Mountian Leaders. You can read more at http://www.royalmarines.mod.uk/careers/ ... ons.php#f8 if you wish.
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A. Anyone can apply to do the Snipers course if it's a requirement of their job.

B. Only those ranks who have passed a Junior Command Course (Cpl's Course) can do the ML's course.

C. Officers must have at least two to three years experience before applying to do the ML's course.

Learn to walk before you run gentlemen, the RM snipers course is considered to be one of the best in the entire world. SAS, SBS, SEAL's, Oz SAS, Kiwi SAS, plus quite a few other nations SF units and a smattering of speciallly chosen Army ranks do it as well. It used to be 12 weeks though I could be wrong on that as it was over 30 years ago since I did it.

The failure rate is high. Most of the course concerns fieldcraft and of course the ability to be a damn good shot. So if you know the four S's plus all the other stuff you are taught in Commando training then apply for it.

In the mid Seventies the RM Snipers course was the only snipers course held within the British armed forces. Until the Army realised that a trained sniper is a much welcomed addition within an infantry battalion. So the Army had to come cap in hand to the Corps and ask if the Corps could lend them some Snipers and PW's to teach the future Army instructors.

As for the ML course. Dig out blind, show your boss's that you have what it takes and then once you have your JCC under your belt apply to do it or spend the rest of your career wondering if you could have hacked it.

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Post by fodd »

I think the course is now 9 weeks long but don't quote me on it plus like artist said failure rate is high my mate has passed it and it took him 2 goes and he was a good lad.
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Post by magicmunkee »

I want to be a Mountain Leader eventually in the RM, I'm pretty sure you must be at least Corporal before you can specialise. If anyone knows different, please correct me.

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I'm pretty sure you must be at least Corporal before you can specialise.
Did you read Artist's post?
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Post by freer07 »

You have to be a Corporal to specialise because you have to do the junior command course. On the Royal Marine Commando website it does not say that you can be a sniper. So if it's not under the specialist courses do you have to be a Corporal to apply for it?
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Focus on you PRMC, then you RT. Don't get hung up on Specialist roles. You will find our own strengths and weaknesses when in RT. Make a choice of career on what you a naturally good at and what you enjoy.
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Sniper course isn't a specialisation but an ad qual. Loads of lads want to be snipers when they go on PRMC, but that soon changes!

You can take a step closer to being a Mountain Leader as a Marine by doing a recce operator course - they sort of do similar things.
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Search, I've cleared this one up a few times.

Snipers have nothing to do with MLs. ML is a 2s specialisation ie. you have to be a Cpl. Same for PTIs and various other SQs. Some SQs start at 3s level, which means you can do them as a Mne. You do not have to be a Cpl to apply for a 2s course, but you must have good enough RoRRs (annual reports) and be successful in your application, which may include aptitude tests, in order to be accepted. You will then be loaded to a JCC before commencing the specialisation course.

Back to snipers...I believe it used to be a subspec of the PW branch - PW(S) - although now I think it's open to gravs as an adqual. It is open to Mnes.
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Besides anything you would need to be the top marksmen in your troop, or indeed one of the best in the corps to be considered i bet. ( I would imagine anyway). Natural talent and binoculars for eyes would be helpful.
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Being a great shot is not the most important element of the Snipers course. The ability to aviod being detected is also a vital requirement.

And that involves being the bee's knees when it come to feildcraft. You and your winger may be tasked with staying in the middle of god knows where, be it an urban enviroment or out in the Ulu for sometimes days on end watching all that goes on around your location with little or no chance of re-supply and having to transmit the info you gather back to your units CP on a regular basis..

You have to observe, eat, sleep, shit & piss all in one location. Lets just say that after a few days you will have gone right off plastic bags and on occasions you will wish that you had a stinking cold and couldn't smell anything. Oh and hope to god your winger ain't got a dose of the shits or is into health food in a big way!

On another occasion you may be the lifeline for your troop as in your job will be to take out any nasty people trying to outflank your Oppos locations. Sometimes the first anyone knows that their is a Sniper team nearby is when this loud bang is heard and the nasty people start to panic.

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Field craft, camouflage,concealment and very great patience.
Operating in pairs. One spotter one shooter. Latter should
be a first class shot or better. Team used to take out high
value targets but also to assimilate and report on intelligence.
EG.Troop concentations, enemy movement and military traffic.
The are also trained as FOOs' and can call in an air strike.
Also skilled in counter siper methods to take out their enemy
equivalents.

Course is best in Nato and to a very high standard. After WW2
only the RM continued sniper training. USMC based their
sniper training on RM lines. The British Army realising that they
had lost a useful military asset sent 'Perce' on courses and in
turn set up their own individual Regimental courses.

As your Sea Daddy Artist said Royal trains many units.
Finally a few years back RM snipers were considered the best
in NATO.

Chas. :evil:
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