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Putting on weight

Posted: Tue 06 Mar, 2007 8:12 pm
by Mephis
hi well as some of you know im 2 weeks away from prmc and i have been training for about 14-15 weeks and i have been losing weight, not loads but i want to gain muscle mass.
i have started drinking a protain suppliment drink and was interested in what other people think to these drinks.
i know that most marines are not massive and are built for injurance aswell as strength but im only 63.5 kg and want to build a little extra flesh.

any thoughts appreshiated :)

Posted: Tue 06 Mar, 2007 8:18 pm
by ChrisBell
Alright im on the same PRMC as you by the way. In regards to your question there has been a whole host of these threads recently so do a quick search and you should find what you want.

Posted: Tue 06 Mar, 2007 8:43 pm
by batess01
mate, i would do some research into diet before trying to "bulk" which in essence is what you are doing, training for a PURELY ENDURANCE AND RUNNING weekend selection + BULKING and putting on mass (which wont help one bit) is a bad idea, if i were you, i would pass PRMC, then bulk up a bit.

Running OFTEN you will LOOSE weight, this is EXPECTED.

Do not worry about your weight, just focus on getting fitter before PRMC, and mentaly preparing yourself to give the RM one hell of a shock when you walk through the gates of lympstone :evil: :evil: :evil: :wink:

Posted: Tue 06 Mar, 2007 9:51 pm
by ADDiction
batess01 is right, although 63kg is light you've got more important matters to concentrate on. There is no way you would gain any meaningful mass in 2 weeks anyway. Bulking is a very long experience and is more effective if you lay off the cardio, which you can't do so close to PRMC. At 10 stone it is likely you have a very fast metabolism, and would really have to up your caloric intake to make any serious gains (atleast 4000kcal a day) aswell as heavy lower body routines and back exercises, complete with alot of rest. Your protein shake(unless it's a mass complex) is designed to assist you with lean muscle. Short term this will be of little significance to your weight.

Posted: Tue 06 Mar, 2007 9:52 pm
by eagleeye
Im exactly the same weight mate, dont worry about being the skinny one just make sure you can perform then despite your size you'll get some respect :wink:
Eagle Eye

Posted: Tue 06 Mar, 2007 10:58 pm
by Artist
eagleeye wrote:Im exactly the same weight mate, dont worry about being the skinny one just make sure you can perform then despite your size you'll get some respect :wink:
Eagle Eye
Just how would you know this then? Been to CTCRM? Had a crack at the training have you then? Don't think so somehow!

A few words people. Do not start getting SMART about RM training until you have done it. I am getting fed up with persons giving advice who have been on this website for a while. Anymore "Advice" from wannerbies who ain't been there and I will start deleting certain peoples posts when I consider the said post to be crap!

In order to "talk the talk" you have had to have "walked the walk". I've had enough of smart arsed PRONGS talking total shite! One PRONG who may well have passed CTCRM on the train to Cornwall once said that the only way to sort out shinsplints was to run on concrete!!?!?!?!

In other words shit in it until you have been there! OK?

The average Bootneck on passing out from CTCRM is about 10 to 11 stone and is about 5' 10"/11" tall. Ok some are smaller and some are taller. All however have a pretty good weight to height ratio come their passout.

Artist

Posted: Tue 06 Mar, 2007 11:03 pm
by jay999
ok not trying to walk the walk or talk the talk here or nothing but i am a similar weight to you, when i was at ctc i found it difficult firemans carrying a guy 2stone heavier than me so just make sure you have a decent level of core strength however you don't need to bulk up for this.

Posted: Tue 06 Mar, 2007 11:08 pm
by Artist
jay999 wrote:ok not trying to walk the walk or talk the talk here or nothing but i am a similar weight to you, when i was at ctc i found it difficult firemans carrying a guy 2stone heavier than me so just make sure you have a decent level of core strength however you don't need to bulk up for this.
You've lost me totally with this reply! Explain please.

Artist

Posted: Tue 06 Mar, 2007 11:12 pm
by jay999
ok when performing firemans carries my legs werent strong enough to run with another bloke over my shoulder. Probably because my legs were not strong enough. So all i am saying is in my case I needed stronger legs so it might be worth bearing in mind for someone who is a similar weight to me? Hope that makes sense and that i havent said something totally bone

Posted: Tue 06 Mar, 2007 11:17 pm
by fodd
lads i have been in training and what artist said is bang on most people are between 10 - 12 stone u dont want to be massive especially when you are getting thrashed everywhere in time you will slowly build up and machure dont do my mistake and bulk up on the weights i weigh 15 stone 11 but im fit

Posted: Tue 06 Mar, 2007 11:38 pm
by Artist
jay999 wrote:ok when performing firemans carries my legs werent strong enough to run with another bloke over my shoulder. Probably because my legs were not strong enough. So all i am saying is in my case I needed stronger legs so it might be worth bearing in mind for someone who is a similar weight to me? Hope that makes sense and that i havent said something totally bone
PM explains.

Artist

Posted: Wed 07 Mar, 2007 12:01 am
by Artist
fodd wrote:lads i have been in training and what artist said is bang on most people are between 10 - 12 stone u dont want to be massive especially when you are getting thrashed everywhere in time you will slowly build up and machure dont do my mistake and bulk up on the weights i weigh 15 stone 11 but im fit
Thanks fodd.

Sometimes I wonder why I keep carping on about light reps instead of heavy ones. To be able to hack Commando Training you need to be just about bang on weight wise in respect to your height.

Some bloke who can wack out sixty odd pull ups whilst smiling is going to have a problem doing Grid Sprints. It's a fact of life! He's also going to have a problem when it comes to speedmarching. His legs will let him down and the truth be told most blokes with upper body strengh tend to wrap when it comes to endurance stuff like yomping from point A to point B.

You need to be slighty above the average civvies fitness level but you also need that little bit extra between you lugholes. I've said this stacks of times but no body listens do they!? Hench my rather to the point reply to this thread ref wannerbies giving out advice. I ain't a nice bloke (so I've been informed) but I do try to help guys who want to join the family of the Royal Marines.

Just take it as read if I suss out "ADVICE" from some Armchair Hero who thinks that because he, or indeed she has done months or years on this site that they know all about RM training then take it as read that their posts are going to be binned and their life Talking the Talk is on a rather thin ground. They may also become Guests. Got the hint people?

Artist

Posted: Wed 07 Mar, 2007 9:35 am
by Sully
Five foot ten and eleven stone when I passed out of CTC :wink:

Posted: Wed 07 Mar, 2007 9:50 am
by fodd
Thanks fodd.

Sometimes I wonder why I keep carping on about light reps instead of heavy ones. To be able to hack Commando Training you need to be just about bang on weight wise in respect to your height.
No worries mate makes me laugh when you hear lads on these forums who arn't bootnecks or not even been in training giving advice about training. like artist said walk the walk before you talk the talk

Posted: Wed 07 Mar, 2007 10:58 am
by Mephis
thanks guys

I have been down to lympstone once allready for a week and been pushed to the limits

we did 90% of the PRMC and little bits of training like intro to the endurance course which is hard work especially the smarty tunnels, the sheep dip wasnt that bad though. ive trained hard for 15 weeks and scored well in gym test one i just feel sort off weeny at 63kg and kind of wanted to build up for self motivation and mental strength.