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Should gurkhas be allowed british citizenship after service?
Posted: Thu 02 Sep, 2004 6:36 pm
by may18
Dunno if you saw on the news, but recently a numbEr of Gurkhas who served 20+ years have been forced back to nepal despite fears they will be in danger at home.
Today 400 protested in liverpool as they have been unable to settle to work, all had served 15 to 30 years.
Should gurkha and gurkha families get citizenship rights after service?.
Posted: Thu 02 Sep, 2004 7:38 pm
by Tab
I could not think of a more deserving group of people, far better than some of the tosser coming into the country.
Posted: Thu 02 Sep, 2004 7:43 pm
by Wholley
What Tab said,
With bells on.
Short of HGV Drivers in the UK?
Same here.
Wholley.
Posted: Thu 02 Sep, 2004 7:50 pm
by may18
Thanks for explaining what to the outsider such as myself seems an astonishing act of ungratefullness. I had heard of the treaty, but thought it governed pay and pensions only. Personally i would like to see it brought into line with commonwealth conditions (citizenship after 3 years) and the treaty negotiated on their behalf but understand that would be difficult.
From a selfish government point of view, i think these people would be a huge asset to britain and an example of ideal desired immigration.
By all accounts the gurkhas who protesed got huge support from the public today with cars hooting and people lining up to offer support and wish them luck. Hopefully there will be more publicity and the public reaction with kick
the MOD into action!!
Regards
Posted: Thu 02 Sep, 2004 9:40 pm
by lew
Of course the should!!!
lew
Posted: Thu 02 Sep, 2004 10:34 pm
by goreD.
What I want to know is who the hell said NO ??????
Gore.
Posted: Fri 03 Sep, 2004 4:20 am
by Guest
Funnily enough im not in favour of automatic citizenship for Gurkhas.
Certainly their applications should be viewed more favourably as a resulkt of their service but not outright citzenship.
The reason why? Well wouldnt people start joining the Gurkhas purely to get UK citizenship? Wouldnt standards decline as a result?
We're talking about Nepal remember, a dirt-poor country.
Posted: Fri 03 Sep, 2004 4:54 am
by Mince
Ex-URNU-Student wrote: Well wouldnt people start joining the Gurkhas purely to get UK citizenship? Wouldnt standards decline as a result?
We're talking about Nepal remember, a dirt-poor country.
I doubt they've been joining up 'cause they love the Queen, mate, or for any other reason than getting out the ol' dirtpoor country. And as long as the recruiting/training bunch keep the bar just as high then standards won't fall no matter why they join.
Posted: Fri 03 Sep, 2004 7:23 am
by Dave.Mil
The reason why? Well wouldnt people start joining the Gurkhas purely to get UK citizenship? Wouldnt standards decline as a result?
I'm sure Pasha can fill in the details, but to join the Gurkhas they don't just nip down to the AFCO and sign up. They do a selection course that would kill most of us,just to get to the selection would kill most of us.they view being a Gurkha as an honour not a right. I Have met and worked with the Gurhkas a few times and not only are they extremely good and loyal soldiers but they are some of the nicest most polite people you will ever come across. If they were allowed to stay you would not see them down the DHSS claiming they can't work, as they would be to proud to scrounge. We should let ex Gurhkas form our border police you would soon see a drop in the illegals we don't want in this country.
Posted: Fri 03 Sep, 2004 8:41 am
by bigbart
If ghurkas were allowed citizenship, it's doubtful any of them would be queuing up to claim benefits like most of the sh*theads that flock here. They're disciplined and motivated. Maybe we should allow them in and ship out some of our own idle scroungers who won't work.
I used to see Ghurkas training at Catterick, and even when going out of camp they would all march together in perfect order. I've never seen a more disciplined lot. Whoever makes the decision to turn away Ghurkas yet allow ex-Iraqui soldiers to come here for asylum needs deporting.
Posted: Fri 03 Sep, 2004 9:13 am
by joshualoftus
Here's the BBC article about this issue if any of you want to read it.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/mers ... 616892.stm
Personally I believe they should be allowed citizenship if they want it. Even the French give it to Legionaires after only five years.
Cheers,
Josh.
Posted: Fri 03 Sep, 2004 10:31 am
by Jason The Argonaut
Well I think they should be offered UK citizenship after there service is up at lest.
Or as Ex-URNU-Student said there applications should viewed more favorably as a result of their service.
Posted: Fri 03 Sep, 2004 6:47 pm
by Tab