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24 hour system.
Posted: Sat 07 Feb, 2004 8:15 pm
by Andy O'Pray
Why in the military do we not use 24.00 hours or 00.00 hours to indicate midnight. We went from 23.59 hours to 00.01 hours. This is not a trick question. If there is a reason I have either forgotten what it is, or I just don't know.
Aye - Andy,

Posted: Sat 07 Feb, 2004 8:27 pm
by Wully
I suppose that the Military being the Military assumed that 0000 hours did not really indicate a time. Can you really have zero hours?
Posted: Sat 07 Feb, 2004 8:47 pm
by Andy O'Pray
I have just discussed this with my wife, a British trained nurse and they also used a 24 hour system. I asked her what would happen if a patient died at exactly midnight on the 12th, she advised that the doctor would advance the time of death to 00.01 hours to show that the patient died on the 13th.
I think that perhaps this is where the answer lies, to differentiate from one date to the next.
Aye - Andy.

Posted: Sat 07 Feb, 2004 10:27 pm
by druadan
How does that work then?? Does 2359 last 120 seconds instead of the normal 60 or something?? Or do the military just lose a minute every day (or a day every 4 years...hmm, a new explanation for leap years...Feb 29th regaining the day that all military personnel have lost by living a minute less than the rest of the world every day...but that would mean that that someone with 20 years of military service would actually be 5 days younger than a civilian with the same birth date...I've confused meself

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Posted: Sun 08 Feb, 2004 8:37 am
by mattt_h
lucky me get to tell an old sweat the answer (just learnt it 2 weeks ago)
if u say Tuesday at 0000/2400 is it the first min of the day or the last? it creates confusion so tuesday at 0001 is def the first min of the day and 2359 the last.
Posted: Mon 09 Feb, 2004 2:00 am
by druadan
Still doesn't explain the 60 seconds in between the two...
Posted: Mon 09 Feb, 2004 7:26 pm
by anglo-saxon
This is in the same vane as the discussion about what constituted the real new milleniu. There were those who stated that it began in Jan 200 and those who said it was Jan 2001.
I am inclined to go with the former, as do take the second position denies the existence of the first 11+ months of time.
Therefore, even though I moght be only just into the first minute past midnight, I am like to decribe it as 00:01 hours, as we have begun the first minute. As my wife so graciously stated on my 40th birthday, "yes, but you're now in your 41st year!" No arguing with that (and as I was half-cut, I really didn't give a rodent's posterior!).
Having said that, when expressing a grid ref, the first one tenth square within a grid square is "zero", not one. Oh waht a complicated world we live in!
Posted: Tue 10 Feb, 2004 4:49 pm
by bootneck
anglo-saxon wrote:This is in the same vane as the discussion about what constituted the real new milleniu. There were those who stated that it began in Jan 200 and those who said it was Jan 2001.
I am inclined to go with the former, as do take the second position denies the existence of the first 11+ months of time.
Therefore, even though I moght be only just into the first minute past midnight, I am like to decribe it as 00:01 hours, as we have begun the first minute. As my wife so graciously stated on my 40th birthday, "yes, but you're now in your 41st year!" No arguing with that (and as I was half-cut, I really didn't give a rodent's posterior!).
Having said that, when expressing a grid ref, the first one tenth square within a grid square is "zero", not one. Oh waht a complicated world we live in!
?:o

Posted: Tue 10 Feb, 2004 5:06 pm
by Ploggers
arameis wrote:How does that work then?? Does 2359 last 120 seconds instead of the normal 60 or something?? Or do the military just lose a minute every day (or a day every 4 years...hmm, a new explanation for leap years...Feb 29th regaining the day that all military personnel have lost by living a minute less than the rest of the world every day...but that would mean that that someone with 20 years of military service would actually be 5 days younger than a civilian with the same birth date...I've confused meself

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Just accept it is what it is. Who said everything in forces was logical.

Posted: Tue 10 Feb, 2004 7:39 pm
by anglo-saxon
Yeah, whatever bootneck. I was pissing sweat with a fever of 104 when I wrote that. Can't all be perfect, squire.
Posted: Tue 10 Feb, 2004 8:25 pm
by got1
I agree with Andy's original post, the old Guard Reports used to end 2359 and start 0001.
There does seem to be some logic in matt_h's explanation.
Anglo, you lost me some where.
Posted: Tue 10 Feb, 2004 9:23 pm
by Artist
I well remember an Irish rock song that went along the lines of;
One O'clock.....Errm Two'Oclock......Tree O'clock........................................Five O'clock....Errrrm?
Arr ter Hell wid it, mines a Pint O Harp! Who gizzes a sh*t anyway, Weem just liston to Mr Wogon in der radio two and well be right!
Artist
Posted: Tue 10 Feb, 2004 10:08 pm
by anglo-saxon
Sticky: You can believe what you want, squire. My digital thermometor doesn't lie. 104 is not uncommon, anyway. My sons have both had temps of 105 before and so have I. 105 in children under 3 years tends to be a hospital visit. In adults (except the old, frail, or pregnant) it just needs to be managed and hospitalization is not necessary.
Having said that, I'm not even sure why you'd give a toss.