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Well, we all apply Cam cream in different ways. In my time, we used to carry a cork round with us, (usually still attached to the bottle of wine) and burn the cork, and apply it to the facial area, not forgetting the ears neck and making sure there were no white bits, and not forgetting your hands. we didn`t have these modern day cam sticks with varying colours,(Artist, you`d have been at home with them mate) we just used to have the little green bag with the brown crap in it. apparently, this was made by Revlon. We used the cork first as this gave the cam cream a base, and made it easier for getting off. So, how do/did YOU, apply your cam cream?

We had the sticks, then the compact and now the liquidy tube stuff. Wash it off? Naw we never washed. Really we got smart and used baby oil. I tried all kinds of junk, shaving cream whatever, razor works, expensive though.

Whitey wrote: Wash it off? Naw we never washed.

Them face scrubs (you know, cleansing pad thingys) seem to work well on the modern stuff...and you can have great fun making up pretty patterns with the three colours in a box, which even come with a handy mirror for checking your hair in the field.

Cam cream ??

I just rub a load of cam into my palm, bit of phlem, wipe it all over the face and the back of the hands, get a mate to put some green squiggles on the shiny bits. Never enough time to do it properly of course .

Baby wipes are my top tip for getting it off.

Of course if your field craft and movement are of the highest order there is no reason to use any sort of camouflage.
I have seen Eban trackers with the ability to approach observers to within a few yards,they being clad in only a basic kind of loin cloth.
I also had a mate in the Corps who was half Cree Indian,his field craft was outstanding,never cammed out,just used the ground and his surroundings to its full extent.
SH

In my humble opinion, cam cream, in any form, is a total waste of time.

I am sure there are those with more experience out there who would disagree, but the simple fact is that infra red equipment doesn't give a stuff what cream you've applied, or in how many different coloured layers. The 'red spot' gets you every time.

In any case, most guys apply cam cream wearing their 'Jungle Hats', and then expose a white forehead, even forgetting the area below the ears and rear of the neck. In WWII, combat troops were told to wait until they saw the 'whites of their eyes' before opening fire, and you can't cam cream the whites of your eye balls! (I know Bootneck tries, but they are criss-crossed red lines, and still show up to a trained operator.)

Aye, Derek

Rotary Booty wrote:I know Bootneck tries, but they are criss-crossed red lines, and still show up to a trained operator.)

Aye, Derek

Aye Derek, and I`ll be trying again tonight,.............and suffer again tomorrow

Cam Cream....Cam Cream.....

You blokes want to think yourself lucky we have the advancment's in cam cream we ahve to day.

I heard the original Duke of Albany's maritime regiment had to use the dung from the horses towing the gun carriage's.

Must have taken something more than a face scrub to remove that s#%t, and the smell can't have helped their trapping rate ither.

Rotary Booty wrote:In my humble opinion, cam cream, in any form, is a total waste of time.

I am sure there are those with more experience out there who would disagree, but the simple fact is that infra red equipment doesn't give a stuff what cream you've applied, or in how many different coloured layers. The 'red spot' gets you every time.

Depends who you're up against then doesn't it? How many potential enemies actually operate tactical IR kit? Even with Starlight scopes and CWS cam cream still has a part to play in reducing the risk of detection even if it's effectiveness is limited. Apart from anything else, there's a supposed psychological affect from camming up.

In any case, most guys apply cam cream wearing their 'Jungle Hats', and then expose a white forehead, even forgetting the area below the ears and rear of the neck.

That's just bad drills then isn't it?

Derek, i don`t think theres much call for cam cream when flying is there? its not as if you can hide a bloody great chopper

I think the cam cream is to stop shine and break up colour.I think it suprises one at first when black people are told to wear it.
First thoughts are that cam cream is to hide the white face,but is in fact to break up the pattern.
Black people wear it to stop the shine.
To answer the argument of why bother.
Close quarter fighting would gain by wearing cam cream.But generally cant see the point.
Never wore it on my radio det because the heat signature was so big i might as well have had a flashing beacon.Plus the generator could be heard up to 75 metres away.
I still camed the vehicle up for overhead cover and distant patrols.

I looked through a T.O.G.( i think it was T.O.G.) site on a Warrior tank(may be Chieftain)into some woods on a misty day on Salisbury.A Landrover could clearly be seen in the wood and that was over a mile away.
What we need is a Clingon(spelling) cloaking device to make us dissapear.
Im sure i saw one on T.V. a programe on future weapons etc.

The different colours in the fancy cam compacts are for urban cam which differs from field cam.

WAKE UP

another factor is that the more you dhobi your DPM`s the more infrared retardent you wash out, PING,

Do you think IR is really that big a factor on the battlefield?