Oakers,
I never thought otherwise, as with many of the Booties on this forum I am not only married but have daughters and have long been indoctrinated into, at least nominally, accepting the superiority of the distaff side.
Barry
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always go commando
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The one time I don’t spell check and someone notices. It’s my northern accent. Profit is pronounced prophet in my house, and just my house. anyone who can prove otherwise is a peeping tom.Spelling always go commando.
stuck in a rut, unsure about the future, unsure about the military lifestyle, for a while anyway
Well, as i say a contribution to pay for bandwith is fair enough (overdue really).
But if people really want to restrict membership to people either
a) joining the services
b) In the services
c) Retired from the services
then the simplest method imho is to revoke all the memberships, and when people apply vet them very strictly based on the criterea above
But if people really want to restrict membership to people either
a) joining the services
b) In the services
c) Retired from the services
then the simplest method imho is to revoke all the memberships, and when people apply vet them very strictly based on the criterea above
May it's not a case of restricting/limiting membership, purely making sure that those who contribute are on the same or similar wavelength to the rest of us. There are those who will need the occasional retune, Artist for example 
, and my batteries do tend to drain easily.
Jules, i didn't know you were ex Tarts Army!
, and my batteries do tend to drain easily. Jules, i didn't know you were ex Tarts Army!
You should talk to somebody who gives a f**k.
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Thank you! Retune what you begger?
I happen to be a gen bloke! (ask my mummy) Less of this retuning you noughty old sod. Hope you were joking. Cos if not, retune yourself superman! I'm going for a sulk now. Just call me Captain Oats. (Mummy said I would meet nasty people like you, and she was right)
Aye Artist
Thank you! Retune what you begger?
I happen to be a gen bloke! (ask my mummy) Less of this retuning you noughty old sod. Hope you were joking. Cos if not, retune yourself superman! I'm going for a sulk now. Just call me Captain Oats. (Mummy said I would meet nasty people like you, and she was right)
Aye Artist
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El Prez - There's a difference between people going on the wind up and people talking about things they know nothing about. I don't have any time for people deliberately trying to take the piss, but the people who talk about things they know little about is a grey area.
I recently started a thread and you wrote 'another crap post.....'. It was a totally over the top response and I was taken aback by it. It probably was a bad thread but it wasn't meant to provoke anyone. I was just trying to start a discussion.
I hadn't wrote anything provocative beforehand so I don't know why you inserted the word 'another'. As it was, I bit my lip and thought a bit more about what I was going to write in future. This is a very professional forum and I don't want to start any trouble in it.
However, there would have many people who would have started to take the piss big style after getting a response like that, and you would have no one to blame but yourself if it happened.
Also, this forum has a area entitled 'joining the marines/ army etc'. Therefore you will expect many people who are a lot younger and more inexperienced than you who will probably (and innocently)ask daft questions. You shouldn't come down hard on them as you do. If you want a forum for people who know everything about the marines then start one. As far as I can see, this isn't one so don't try and make out that it is.
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I recently started a thread and you wrote 'another crap post.....'. It was a totally over the top response and I was taken aback by it. It probably was a bad thread but it wasn't meant to provoke anyone. I was just trying to start a discussion.
I hadn't wrote anything provocative beforehand so I don't know why you inserted the word 'another'. As it was, I bit my lip and thought a bit more about what I was going to write in future. This is a very professional forum and I don't want to start any trouble in it.
However, there would have many people who would have started to take the piss big style after getting a response like that, and you would have no one to blame but yourself if it happened.
Also, this forum has a area entitled 'joining the marines/ army etc'. Therefore you will expect many people who are a lot younger and more inexperienced than you who will probably (and innocently)ask daft questions. You shouldn't come down hard on them as you do. If you want a forum for people who know everything about the marines then start one. As far as I can see, this isn't one so don't try and make out that it is.
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Any of you boys seen an aircraft-carrier around here?
No probs with the dosh!
But have we got the definitive reasons for guys bailing out? Is it because of the geeks? Or, could it be because some people enjoy the serious debates but are put off by the banter? I enjoy it but I could see how it could annoy some people. Can Jay throw some light on this for us? Or did guys/gals just ask to opt out without giving a reason?
In fact, why opt out at all? Why not just stop logging on? Wazgoinon??
But have we got the definitive reasons for guys bailing out? Is it because of the geeks? Or, could it be because some people enjoy the serious debates but are put off by the banter? I enjoy it but I could see how it could annoy some people. Can Jay throw some light on this for us? Or did guys/gals just ask to opt out without giving a reason?
In fact, why opt out at all? Why not just stop logging on? Wazgoinon??
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North Sea Tigress
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Maverick, I agree wholeheartedly with your post.
Sissy, I have not asked for my name to be removed, but I have withdrawn from being an active member of the forum for two reasons;
1.I got seriously pi**ed off with a condescending attitude handed to me by two ladies on a certain post.
2.I got fed up with my and others posts being what I considered over moderated by a certain moderator, who seems to be under the impression that he is the all knowing font of knowledge.
Well, you did ask the question publicly
As for a five pound susbscription to the site to support running costs, I think it is a fine idea, as long as the posts remain open to read, to encourage new joiners.
Sissy, I have not asked for my name to be removed, but I have withdrawn from being an active member of the forum for two reasons;
1.I got seriously pi**ed off with a condescending attitude handed to me by two ladies on a certain post.
2.I got fed up with my and others posts being what I considered over moderated by a certain moderator, who seems to be under the impression that he is the all knowing font of knowledge.
Well, you did ask the question publicly
As for a five pound susbscription to the site to support running costs, I think it is a fine idea, as long as the posts remain open to read, to encourage new joiners.
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harry hackedoff
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Rock pusher, members who have left and told us that they are leaving, have all cited the nobbers as the reason. Some have simply thinned out, or reduced the frequency of their visits. As for being put off by the banter, check out replies made to a certain Muslim female who has no connection whatsoever, with the mob. She is a keen member and I won`t name her, but in responses to her questions, honest questions get honest answers. I wouldn`t want to exclude this type of member from the subscribers area.
Magz, ref your first reason,
but mostly not. We do our best( what, to upset people, Harry? )
If you, or anyone else, is not happy with any of the moderators, you have the option of pm-ing that person, or pm-ing Jay. We will always reply, we will always try to sort it, or at least give an explanation. We actually do this with the likes of Airhead. We are all members first, moderators second.
yours, Aye, Harry
Magz, ref your first reason,
leaving wasn`t your only option. You could have responded in kind. Ref your second reason, there is an area of these forums for moderators to discuss posts that they have moderated, problem posters,admin issues etc. Most posts which have been moderated will have at least been mentioned in that forum. I know that the three of us do upset people with responses we make, from time to time. Sometimes intentionallyI got seriously pi**ed off
but mostly not. We do our best( what, to upset people, Harry? ) If you, or anyone else, is not happy with any of the moderators, you have the option of pm-ing that person, or pm-ing Jay. We will always reply, we will always try to sort it, or at least give an explanation. We actually do this with the likes of Airhead. We are all members first, moderators second.
yours, Aye, Harry
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Christ.
These are the sort of questions/thoughts that democracies are built on (whatever they are ).
I'm undecided, although the thought of a forum where the intrusion of f*ckwits does sound appealing, theres a nagging doubt in the back of my mind that keeps saying censorship.
I know the initial acceptance criteria is payment of a £5 subscription but what then? I mean, I could pay my fiver and roundly slag everyone off - if I get IP blocked then do I get my £5 back? If not then there surely needs to be a rulebook produced as, in effect, we are joining a subscribed association - unless of course the rule is to obey the rules imposed by the moderators as and when they see fit. But then will there be a grievence procedure to follow if we feel unjustly wronged?
Then theres also the danger that if we restrict the membership to like minded souls will we lose the ability of fresh thought? I'd like to wager theres a more than a few people on this forum who held an opinion on a subject they thought correct but after reading posts to the contrary had changed their mind - I know I certainly have, and to be honest I am glad, as I feel I have a broader knoweldge on some subjects that I previously thought I knew about.
Not only that though what about the concept of challanging the pre-agreed lines of thought? In some circumstances I feel this aspect has already been trodden down, by the sounds of it so does NST.
Only by keeping the forum as open and democratic as possible will we be able to really keep the thing together in a recognisable format. To create a 2 tier forum will I believe lessen the attraction and stifle the imput required to keep it rolling.
I don't know what we can do about the walters and I do feel for the moderators who have to try to legislate what is and what is not acceptable, but if we choose to segregate the forum because of a few wasters then doesn't that show that they have already won?
These are the sort of questions/thoughts that democracies are built on (whatever they are
).I'm undecided, although the thought of a forum where the intrusion of f*ckwits does sound appealing, theres a nagging doubt in the back of my mind that keeps saying censorship.
I know the initial acceptance criteria is payment of a £5 subscription but what then? I mean, I could pay my fiver and roundly slag everyone off - if I get IP blocked then do I get my £5 back? If not then there surely needs to be a rulebook produced as, in effect, we are joining a subscribed association - unless of course the rule is to obey the rules imposed by the moderators as and when they see fit. But then will there be a grievence procedure to follow if we feel unjustly wronged?
Then theres also the danger that if we restrict the membership to like minded souls will we lose the ability of fresh thought? I'd like to wager theres a more than a few people on this forum who held an opinion on a subject they thought correct but after reading posts to the contrary had changed their mind - I know I certainly have, and to be honest I am glad, as I feel I have a broader knoweldge on some subjects that I previously thought I knew about.
Not only that though what about the concept of challanging the pre-agreed lines of thought? In some circumstances I feel this aspect has already been trodden down, by the sounds of it so does NST.
Only by keeping the forum as open and democratic as possible will we be able to really keep the thing together in a recognisable format. To create a 2 tier forum will I believe lessen the attraction and stifle the imput required to keep it rolling.
I don't know what we can do about the walters and I do feel for the moderators who have to try to legislate what is and what is not acceptable, but if we choose to segregate the forum because of a few wasters then doesn't that show that they have already won?
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harry hackedoff
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Gash, moderators aren`t the thought police. The site has a "Conditions" page, at the moment, which everyone clicks to say they agree with the terms. Few actually read it, however.
All of the posters who have been binned, or warned about posts, have posted stuff which regular members have complained about. On the conditions page, it lists reasons for being excluded. Not agreeing with moderators is not a reason.
Your last points ref the winkers, I agree with. This is a democratic site. I welcome anyone who has an opposing view, if it`s well argued and honestly held. If I can`t convince someone of the validity of my side of the arguement, by fair debate, then I`m happy to agree to disagree. However boring this can be at times.( certain posters with one point to make, whenever they post, spring to mind) IE why don`t you lot like Americans. That arguement gives me the wildies.
Ref moderators. Most of what we do is behind the scenes stuff. For instance, I try and read every post, every day. As a member, I would never do that. Why would I read posts that don`t interest me? As I do so, I like to reply to posts that do interest me, or start new ones. More frequently of late, we are cracking down on the likes of Airhead as soon as it becomes obvious what they are. We( mods) have had enough of the friendly pms, the polite warnings, the open warnings on the site the foul mouthed replies by pm, etc etc, when we know where certain posters are coming from within a few posts of them first appearing.
It isn`t what I joined this site for, but I want the quality here to remain high.
All of the posters who have been binned, or warned about posts, have posted stuff which regular members have complained about. On the conditions page, it lists reasons for being excluded. Not agreeing with moderators is not a reason.
Your last points ref the winkers, I agree with. This is a democratic site. I welcome anyone who has an opposing view, if it`s well argued and honestly held. If I can`t convince someone of the validity of my side of the arguement, by fair debate, then I`m happy to agree to disagree. However boring this can be at times.( certain posters with one point to make, whenever they post, spring to mind) IE why don`t you lot like Americans. That arguement gives me the wildies.
Ref moderators. Most of what we do is behind the scenes stuff. For instance, I try and read every post, every day. As a member, I would never do that. Why would I read posts that don`t interest me? As I do so, I like to reply to posts that do interest me, or start new ones. More frequently of late, we are cracking down on the likes of Airhead as soon as it becomes obvious what they are. We( mods) have had enough of the friendly pms, the polite warnings, the open warnings on the site the foul mouthed replies by pm, etc etc, when we know where certain posters are coming from within a few posts of them first appearing.
It isn`t what I joined this site for, but I want the quality here to remain high.
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Here are the existing conditions we all agreed to
profile.php?mode=register
Any members not party to the above posts, please go back to page 5, thanks
profile.php?mode=register
Any members not party to the above posts, please go back to page 5, thanks
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Hi Harry,
I'm with you all the way on keeping the quality high. I guess, because like you, I tend to read all the forums then this fiver isn't really going to do that much for me as regards enforcing a knobber free zone. I'll probably end up spending as much time browsing the free site as the pay site.
I can see how some members would like to be insulated from the walters so they can conduct their posts in observance of communicative etiquette but thats not what i personally want from the forum, the abuse of walters is something i am willing to put up with in order to expose myself to a greater diversity of people. Yes I have been aggreviated by some posters (airhorn) but it has never crossed my mind to leave the forum because of it.
To be honest i don't know if I am missing something but I haven't seen all that many abusive posts anyway, also won't you as moderators have to regulate the free site anyhow?
I'm with you all the way on keeping the quality high. I guess, because like you, I tend to read all the forums then this fiver isn't really going to do that much for me as regards enforcing a knobber free zone. I'll probably end up spending as much time browsing the free site as the pay site.
I can see how some members would like to be insulated from the walters so they can conduct their posts in observance of communicative etiquette but thats not what i personally want from the forum, the abuse of walters is something i am willing to put up with in order to expose myself to a greater diversity of people. Yes I have been aggreviated by some posters (airhorn) but it has never crossed my mind to leave the forum because of it.
To be honest i don't know if I am missing something but I haven't seen all that many abusive posts anyway, also won't you as moderators have to regulate the free site anyhow?
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